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Introduced in the House on March 11, 2010

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I have a better idea. Why don't we do away with pensions completely for you people since a large part of us have lost our pensions (due to the actions of politicians). If you need more money, why don't you get another job. You must be crazy to propose this bill when our economy is so screwed up. And, if you don't know this already, we are screwed up because of YOU and your buddies.

To Stopthecrap:  Before you get so angry you should know the facts about state workers.  What you suggest has already been done.  Employees hired in the last several years don't get defined benefit pensions, they only get 401Ks that they can contribute to.  A few years ago employees with a certain amount of seniority were given the choice of keeping their pension or taking a lump sum and putting it into a 401K.  Those who did so won't be getting a pension.  (Many people took that option and when the market crashed they lost much of their retirement money.)  Under this current proposal, state employees with enough seniority would get a small increase in their pension if they retire immediately.  This has the effect of getting rid of all those older employees with lots of seniority who make more money than new employees.  That should make you happy, not angry.

I think this early retirement is so important to a lot of people. They should have the option for this. I hope this get pushed in the future. big rig accident attorneys orlando

This is so good to see that the state is able to offer this. If you work hard this retirement will definitely pay off in the long run. Glad that they are offering this Tesol certificate