Michigan Votes Forum

Wait a minute... how is this college education "free" if taxpayers have to PAY for it???  While education is certainly important, our ELEMENTARY schools are suffering!  Plus, there are grants, student loans, scholarships and all sorts of other options for college financing.  How about we FOCUS on the basics first?

 Exactly what does this mean?  "and money credited from individuals' state income tax refunds, as provided by law, shall be dedicated to this fund."

What constitutes volunteer work and community service? Who will assure these requirements are met? Will a signature by a "reverend" be enough. Will Work for a political party, ACORN etc. qualify?

Are there no requirements for maintaining a minimum grade average before funds will be paid or will thecommunity colleges just become hangouts for freebies who will add nothing but disruption and adversley effect those who are really trying to get an education? What courses will be eligible for funding? Would we be paying for courses to teach the students how to masturbate etc as some of the wacky liberal colleges are now doing?

I suspect this resolution is a sop to the teachers unions as it will provide more jobs as the enrollment increases. I imagine many students will respect this "free" education as much as they respect other "entitlements". I can also predict new taxes to add onto the comm. colleges, hire more "teachers" , to pay for the additionalteachers benefits and retirements, and of course, huge salary increases for the CC president and the staff.

 It is no wonder why the state is in trouble with this type of thinking....We can pay for the higher education and then since there is no employment here, those we educate can leave and work somewhere else....fix the economy and the education won't be a problem...!

Incredible, absolutely incredible.....  What planet is this guy living on?

 Of course this bill has no chance of passing but it is an indication of the type of people we have representing us in Lansing.  One may say "but, wouldn't it be wonderful if everyone had a college education?" and at some level it would be.  However, this system would diminish the value of that education to a point where it would become four more years of government indoctrination.  I think the most frightening feature of this bill is the forced service for one year and an the incarceration in the state of Michigan for four years.  This amounts to indentured servitude to the socialist state.

"It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master. "
Ayn Rand

These over-educated liberal dems apparently never took an economics course! But then, the website whatwilltheylearn dot com shows that, to obtain a liberal arts degree at either U of M or MSU,  no courses in economics or US History/American Govt are required. U of M doesnt even require a mathematics course of any kind! Incidentally, neither require a literature course either. I wonder where these bozos went to school?? Since the educational cartel is now controlled by 'social justice/share the wealth' folks with no understanding of how the real world works, they want to spread even more of the taxpayer's so-called wealth to send everyone to the State-sponsored halls of indoctrination . . where they will get the same lopsided, useless education these representatives apparently got. Go ahead - put this on the ballot! Make my day! If these reps ever pulled their heads out of the NEA's nether regions, they might at least be able to understand that the taxpayers see through all of these attempts to funnel the entire GDP into education. I have a so-called 'community college' here that is now building dormatories so that the kiddies wont have to drive 15 miles home every night and be out from under the watchful eye of Big Education! What's wrong with this picture?? With this kind of 'leadership', Michigan is doomed!

 Anyone in the house or senate would have to be insane to pass this legislation when the state is in such an economic downward spiral.  Public education is not being fully funded nor is special education.  Even if this did make it to a ballot, the people of Michigan do not support new taxes on anything.

 OK, it's verifiably true! Democrats have no ties to reality AT ALL. WE cannot afford another tax. This state is sinking into the Great Lakes and this irresponsible idiot wants to raise taxes.