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 another simple question.

i'm interested to hear your views.

LOL! No your not, you're interested in giving yours.

 so why haven't i? and while we are at it, why haven't you? don't you have an opinion as to what patriotism is?

 some would define patriotism as the love of and devotion to one's country, and the willingness to make sacrifices for that country.

Patriotism: "The last refuge of the scoundrel."

gypsy:

Patriotism: "The last refuge of the scoundrel."

 

 That is incorrect. You confuse nationalism with patriotism.

Nationalism is the perversion of the virtue of patriotism.

 

In anycase this thread is pointless.

In reply to the question, "What is patriotism".

It does not require an opinion, it requires a definition, and that can be found in a dictionary.

Pffft !   Waste of time.

uber-liberal:

 some would define patriotism as the love of and devotion to one's country, and the willingness to make sacrifices for that country.

 

 Not bad  Uber/Crazyc,  best answer you have ever given.

 so you're paranoid too... i wouldn't have thought it.

TrueBlue:

gypsy:

Patriotism: "The last refuge of the scoundrel."

 

 That is incorrect. You confuse nationalism with patriotism.

Nationalism is the perversion of the virtue of patriotism.

Thank you for explaining the point I was making. To some it would not be quite so obvious.

 

 

 it's amazing how often you've commented on this pointless thread, tb.

 does patriotism mean fealty to the government as opposed to fidelity to the government? does it mean absolute obedience? does it mean total sacrifice of everything you own and hold dear to the government? does it even mean allegience to the government.

 

 that must make socialism the ultimate perversion of patriotism.

 patriotism is doing what is good for the country as a whole, not your particular little slice of the country. it means making sacrifices for the good of the country, not the good of any one group. this sacrifice is freely given by patriots every day. as evidenced by our all volunteer military, our incredible donations to charity by ordinary citizens, and by our willingness to help others in need.

it should not need to be mandated by law, but should remain guided by the individual. sacrifices for the good of others also requires that those who benefit from the sacrifices do what is necessary for those sacrifices to not to have been made in vain.  

 I'm baaaccckkk ...

Take a look at this website and you will see what one side of patriotism stands for.

http://oathkeepers.blog.com/

Patriotism is a feeling for everyone about his country.Patriotism is not just for soldires.It is for all civilians also.

It is not the matter what country gives you, the matter is what you give to country.

 patriot-- n. [[<GR patris, fatherland]] one who loves and zealously supports one's own country--pa'tri.ot'ic (-at'ik) adj.--pa'tri.ot'i'.cal.ly adv. --pa'triotism'n. from the wevster's new world  office dictionary.     one who loves his country.

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