Michigan Votes Forum

Introduced in the House on July 24, 2007, to require retail establishments that have employee-only restrooms to allow a customer to use the restroom if the person shows a copy of a statement on a prescription form that indicates he or she suffers from Crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, any other inflammatory bowel disease, irritable bowel syndrome, or any other medical condition that requires immediate access to a toilet, or is pregnant

The vote was 72 in favor, 35 opposed and 3 not voting

(House Roll Call 446 at House Journal 104)

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Where do I begin! Wow! Time for some of you so called Rep's to go on part time work to balance the budget. You have way too much time on your hands. This bill stinks. Before you, take yet another right away from private business think about this: If the bill were truly geared towards the betterment of society, then why stop with private businesses. And for that matter, all situations that require immediate bathroom privileges should be allowed. If I am driving by one of your houses and have diarrhea or it's that time of the month, you must let me in and use your personal bathroom. I can assure you that it would be no trouble to carry around a piece of paper that says I have a period once a month, or ISB. There are just as many unscrupulous Doctors as there are lawmakers with too much time to poop around. Furthermore, if your personal bathrooms are not handicapped accessible for my pooping pleasure, get ready to bring them up to code because I will probably trip, fall, and sue you. Now why I'm sitting on your thrown I had better not view anything that looks like black mold or I will probably feel sick and need to have your house inspected. After that, you will all need to be evacuated to another location, at your expense. Then there's the inevitable devaluation of your home because no one will feel safe and after several attempts to put it on the market, missed time at work (not that any of us will miss you) you will come to the conclusion that welfare is your only answer. Welcome to Michigan!

I cannot believe this bill. As the other comment says, you all need to be part time if this is all you have to do. Why don't you work on something other than your own needs??? I can see the headlines now: "Store owner arrested and doing 30 days in jail for not allowing use of toliet". Ummm.....yes, thats a wise use of what little money the state has left.....

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but I really have to go...

These mental midgets in lansingistan about as much as a fish needs a bicycle. No, the fish may grow legs 100,000 years from now and need that bike, what do you think the odds are that anyone in lansing will grow a brain?

If you do not have a serious condition like IBD or IBS, shutup b/c you have no clue how life if with that condition.

If you would have read the bill before going off on a completely incorrect tangent about a condition you obviously have never been in contact with you would realized you whole statement is nothing but hot air. The bill is for use of employee restrooms, yes but this is if there isn't a public one. You the person using the restroom cannot sue for injury or harm because of the location. If the location is too hazardous then entry is still unpermitted. IBD is no joke and anyone with that condition can tell you so. Not every person has an emergency every time they have to go, but it is nice to be able to save someone the embarrassment. I hope the new bill passes and I'm sorry for those people that are so unconsiderate to other around them.

Has no business telling anyone who can use their crapper. We have become a nation of idiot little children thanks to the libs and their nanny government. How about if you have ibd or xyz then you get assigned to a business and once a week you can go clean their bathroom? Sounds fair to me.

The Government dictates all sorts of stupid crap. What's it matter if they dictate the use of a crapper. IBD is just like any other handicap that someone may have, just different criteria. Why don't we get rid of handicap spots in parking lots too. People are so concerned about their private facilities needing to be cleaned? I have rarely been in a private bussiness' facilities that were cleaner that the public facilites anywhere. Most people are responsable and wouldn't cause a mess. That is a ridiculous reason to deny someone with a medical condition (that they have no control over) the use of a bathroom. In the earlier years of our society everyone seemed to just show eachother a little more respect, now everyone is so abrasive and rude. We wonder why everything is falling apart.

"In the earlier years of our society everyone seemed to just show eachother a little more respect" That was before the nannies and libs decided that it was the job of government to force their ideas on everyone. You treat folks like animals and you're going to get bitten once in a while. Where exactly do you propose to end the nanny government control? The crapper? The ashtrays? The menu choices? You libs have reaped what you have sown and don't like it much. It seems you were ok with controling other folks but when someone tells you that you can't use the crapper you get your panties all knotted up.. I told you so. "People are so concerned about their private facilities needing to be cleaned?" Are you going to clean them for me? "Most people are responsable and wouldn't cause a mess" Wrong. Most people are pigs and don't take care of other peoples stuff.

Sounds like you have your panties in a bunch. I'm done wasting my time trying to even just express an opposing view to a brick wall. Your the reason america is in the crapper. It's not the libs it's not the conservatives it's the jerks that oppose anything and everything just to hear themselves blow hot air. America was built on a democracy where everything has to be voted on and passed; be it by dems or reps. The original bill has already passed and hopefully the new one will too! So enjoy cleaning up my crap!

"America was built on a democracy" This country was never a democract, was never intended to be a democracy and democracies are bound to fail and the founding fathers knew this very well. We were and should still be a constitutional republic. We have a republican form of government. Please educate yourself, seems that the public indoctrination center has failed you. Democracy is four wolves and a sheep voting on dinner. Robert A. Heinlein If pigs could vote, the man with the slop bucket would be elected swineherd every time, no matter how much slaughtering he did on the side. --Orson Scott Card "So enjoy cleaning up my crap!" And you call me the "problem"? My guess is that if you lost that extra 200 lbs you carry that your pooping problem would disappear.

You would be surprised to see who is on the other side of the keyboard. Someone barely able to keep up a healthy weight, hospitialized twice in the last year due to complications, still working 40+ hours a week, young individual. I must not be educated on our legal system, but you should learn about the condition you are making light of. Not to mention how many Americans it affects. I will pray for you and your good health.

First and foremost this is from a third party and NOT from the person whom you have been arguing with. Second of all weight has absolutely NOTHING to do with an uncontrollable urge to have to use the restroom, so that was the most asinine comment I have ever read in my entire life, and you OBVIOUSLY have no consideration whatsoever for ANYONE around you. You care about yourself and that’s it, and therein lays your problem. Crohn’s disease is a serious condition and nothing to be joked about. So why don’t you take your business owning, inconsiderate mind and go worry about one of the other MANY problems that this country has that are way bigger concearn than someone needing to use the restroom, and quit wasting our time.

with crohns. They tell me that this is a non issue and sounds like someone just wants to feel special. By The Way,What's an Asinie???

Poster writes: “I Know 3 People with crohns. They tell me that this is a non issue and sounds like someone just wants to feel special.” If you are writing about the need of Crohn’s disease sufferers to immediately use a toilet, you are evidently quite wrong in your assessment of this bill. Every description of the disease lists “diarrhea” as a common symptom. Anyone who has ever had diarrhea understands that immediate access to a toilet is, if not an absolute necessity, a huge comfort. Of course, the entire description of Crohn’s disease also notes that symptoms may vary among individuals afflicted with it. Your friends may indeed have Crohn’s disease and are not troubled by diarrhea, but they would not be representative of the universe of Crohn's sufferers. Your comment about access to toilets not being an issue for Crohn’s disease sufferers, based on three people you claim to know, is a prime example of drawing a conclusion based on too little information and broadcasting it. “By The Way,What's an Asinie???” The word probably is “asinine.” It refers to a donkey, a not very bright animal given to braying mindlessly about nothing.

as·i·nine–adjective 1. foolish, unintelligent, or silly; stupid: It is surprising that supposedly intelligent people can make such asinine statements. 2. of or like an ass: asinine obstinacy; asinine features. it actually displayed a picture of you next to it...weird...

I can see from your post that you are extremely narcissistic probably young individual. The public indoctrination centers did a fine job with your self esttem but seems that the manners and intelligence portions are left wanting. It is a shame that you cannot make your point without swearing and calling names but I have come to expect this from the left side of the aisle. Have a great day and as you once said, I'm "Done wasting my time on you"

well once agian you are wrong on all accounts, and i never once used profanity. i said you were inconsiderate of other people, and implied that you were asinine, meaning your views and thoughts on this bill were asinine.

spelling was another thing you didn't learn in the government education camp. But on the bright side, I'll bet you turn out to be a great little marxist. Have a nice evening.

you have a wonderful evening as well.

Sounds like someone can't help but resort to name calling themself. What does name calling have to do with this bill? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. That is what makes America so great! The bill has already passed and that's that. I know it can be difficult when your view has not been recognized, but just remember to follow the golden rule (treat others as you wish to be treated).

"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion" But you're not entitled to my crapper. Sorry.

Wrong the bill which was already passed says otherwise.

thank you google for having answers to my question about useage of bathrooms for the handicap. yahoo couldnot provide any useful answer. i thank they are just pretending to do reserch.

Does anyone know if this bill has been passed or not?

Let's hope not

That you never develop one of the diseases/conditions cited in this bill, and get caught short in a retail establishment run by an unsympathetic owner or manager.

This bill passed the house and is now stuck in commitee.

“I Know 3 People with crohns. They tell me that this is a non issue and sounds like someone just wants to feel special.” The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data.'

Perhaps if more of the "typical" businesses were required to have restrooms available to the general public then there would be less need to make "all" businesses have restrooms available for "special needs individuals- by the way, who wants to go to the doctor to get a "bathroom pass". I want to know why EVERY retail style business with a bathroom is not required to make it available to the public- ESPECIALLY gas stations- they sell 50 oz big gulps- but you can't use the restroom!! Seriously. I have children and sometimes they don't know until the last minute that they need to go. Or worse yet, when we are on a road trip and I go to fill up and they don't have a public restroom. I have even gone so far as to yell back out the front door of the gas station and tell my husband to stop pumping gas because they won't let my crying child use the bathroom. It might sound like I'm ranting but I once had an afternoon in Ann Arbor where I went to 3 gas stations AND a KFC with a screaming child and finally made it to a McDonald's but by then he had wet his pants. It's absolutely ridiculous! I've bordered on being violent with the gas station owners. If an establishment sells food and drink (even packaged) they should have a restroom available for public use. Where else do they expect you to go??

The reason why AMerica is suffering is because we have unintelligent people arguing for the sake of arguing. A bill wouldn't be passed if the restroom issue was not a problem amongst people suffering from these terrible conditions. Living a normal life under these horrible and embarassing diseases is no walk in the park. It destroys any hope of a normal life. I myself have Ulcerative Colitis and worry constantly about going shopping without using the bathroom. It;s so funny to me that people are calling this bill stupid. WHy don't they see how difficult it is to live with such a horrible condition and than we'll see if they still fight against the bill. They obvioulsy have no clue what it's like.