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01-01-2001 12:00 AM
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Votes Admin


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2006 House Bill 5633 (Establish English as official state language )
Introduced in the House on February 3, 2006, to establish English as the official state language. This would apply to governmental communications, but not the private sector. It would establish that state agencies and local governments are not required to provide documents, public written materials, or website content in any language other than English, but does not prohibit them from doing so The vote was 73 in favor, 32 opposed and 2 not voting (House Roll Call 469 at House Journal 47) Click here to view bill details.
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crazycajun



- Joined on 11-22-2008
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one cannot move to france and be french...
one has to learn, and speak almost exclusively...
french.
michigan constitution, article 1. Sec. 6.
Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.
keep your powder dry.
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Bovard 1994
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transplant


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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This Legal Immigrant Agrees
It's about time Michigan woke up! Now if only we can wake up the rest of America. I was born in Mexico, came to the U.S. with my parents as a seven-year-old (legally, we waited our turn in line), started school unable to speak a word of English but desperately wanted to learn it to fit in and to be able to communicate. Believe me when I tell you, it is very important to have an official common language. I have seen first-hand what the use of a foreign language in this country is doing to the fabric of our society. Most of the foreigners I know have no intention or desire to learn English unless they absolutely have to. And why should they...they are catered to by the business sector in the interest of the allmighty dollar. The federal and state governments cater to them out of political correctness and in hopes of mining their ranks for votes, to say nothing of the elected officials fear of losing their seats in the legislatures. I hate to sound like gloom and doom, but unless America wakes up, the Rio Grande will not be the dividing line for long. So I hope and pray that this bill makes it through the Legislature.
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Admin003


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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Rep. Tobocman's "no vote explanation"
Rep. Tobocman, having reserved the right to explain his protest against the passage of the bill, made the following statement:
"Mr. Speaker and members of the House:
I voted against this bill because of the Garfield amendment offered on the floor of the House that stripped language clarifying that a State agency may, at its own discretion, publish materials in a language other than English. By stripping this language, the majority at least implies that it does not want to clarify that certain government materials may be printed in a foreign language.
More likely, however, the only reason to strip the clarifying language is to prohibit printing of important government documents in foreign languages. This is a woeful and disastrous public policy decision. Unless the majority desired prohibiting the printing of government documents in a foreign language, why would they strip language clarifying State agencies' ability to do so?
If, indeed, the sponsor's desire was to unite the State of Michigan around English as our official language, ostensibly to pay honor to that language, why wouldn't the sponsor want to work in a bipartisan fashion to craft a bill with nearly unanimous, if not unanimous, support? The answer is politics. Designating English as the official language is populist politics and the elimination of clarifying language enhances the chance that the bill would receive opposition. Who cares if it prohibits printing essential emergency services information, pandemic information or other critical information in a foreign language? Who cares if the lives of non-English speaking residents are threatened?
This is crass politics and it is undignified of this Chamber. Additionally, Michigan works as a state when it honors all of its citizens and is welcoming to all people of the world. If the goal is to integrate immigrants and to increase people's use of English, then the real solution is to fund English as a Second Language classes and to fund adult education programs.
To the extent that this bill threatens the printing of essential government information in foreign languages, it needs to be opposed. Stripping language clarifying the bill's limits has no legitimate purposes. I look forward to the day when our Chamber can approach issues of immigration with the judiciousness, fairness and intelligence with which Michigan's citizens have entrusted us."
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Admin003


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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Rep. Zelenko's "no vote explanation"
Rep. Zelenko, having reserved the right to explain her protest against the passage of the bill, made the following statement:
"Mr. Speaker and members of the House:
I was supportive of this legislation until the amendment to strike page 1; line 7 and balance of subsection (3)* was adopted. Therefore, I voted no on HB 5633.
If the below referenced subsection is replaced in the Senate, then I may reconsider my position on the concurrence vote.
*(3) This act does not prohibit a state agency or a local unit of government from providing documents, publishing written materials, or providing website content in any language."
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Admin003


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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Rep. Gonzales' "no vote explanation"
Rep. Gonzales, having reserved the right to explain his protest against the passage of the bill, made the following statement:
"Mr. Speaker and members of the House:
English is already the "official language" of America (and this state) so HB 5633 is totally unnecessary. As Americans& patriots, we do not need to build walls of confrontation--we should be building bridges of support. The 'English Only' movement in this country has always served as a vehicle to discriminate against those viewed as not part of the mainstream. My parents believed in 'English Plus' and that is to speak English AND treat all people with respect--that includes respecting different languages. We all value the need to speak English in this country, but we should not trivialize and mistreat those who may be learning English and may need a helping hand with ESL and other language aids."
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Admin003


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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Rep. Cushingberry's "no vote explanation"
Rep. Cushingberry, having reserved the right to explain his protest against the passage of the bill, made the following statement:
"Mr. Speaker and members of the House:
There is no need to have an official language. This bill is more of the divisive tactics designed to cause people discomfort. Will we be required to be literate next?
While individuals who are in the work place are accustomed to communication issues what does this serve? No one who's English is not as good as the official language talkers will feel any more compelled to improve by this legislation. Besides English is not the native language anyway.
What about the languages already spoken by the time Europeans arrived here? Should Cadillac have been required to learn Potawomani, Huron, Odawa? Was Father Marquette told he had to forgo French and English and speak Ojibwe?
What else is behind this bill except to disenfranchise individuals who speak other languages by eliminating the dual printing in official publications especially the ballot. More of the majority's 'Pappa' strategy it seems to me and in good conscience I must vote no.
When will we get it together and work to make people feel welcome and comfortable and celebrate the diverse voices in our society which makes this grand American experiment of the tasty salad bowl it has become?
We should remember this Euro-centric attitude is part of the ugly American who is not very well liked in the world today. There are so many other matters crying for our attention that this is again a display of the denigration of this body over the past decade and the incredible wasting of time.
When will we get to providing health care like Rhode Island; the education of adults like the EEC;improvement of race relations; energy independence like Brazil; encouraging the populace to buy Michigan made vehicles; reform and humane correction policies; greater support for the poor and less fortunate; just to name a few issues crying out for our attention!
I don't hear a loud chorus for this type of act and it is unnecessary- another solution looking for a problem."
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Admin003


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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Rep. Bieda's "no vote explanation"
Rep. Bieda, having reserved the right to explain his protest against the passage of the bill, made the following statement:
"Mr. Speaker and members of the House:
I voted 'no' on House Bill 5633 because the bill, as reported out of committee, is a poorly crafted piece of legislation, and really is nothing more than a knee-jerk, xenophobic reaction to some of the turmoil this nation is facing with the problem with illegal immigration, an issue that is currently a poorly addressed responsibility of the national government.
Michigan has been a state for almost 170 years. We have done quite well without having to statutorily legislate an official language. For all practical and real purposes, English already holds that designation. English is widely and universally spoken and taught throughout the state. English is used on official documents, public acts and bills, and the immigrant experience has been one of learning English (or more correctly Americanized English) and adapting and contributing to our nation, state and society. This bill does nothing to advance this very plain fact. We do not need a new law. English is not an endangered language in Michigan, and there is no question as to what language is spoken here. Whether this bill ultimately becomes law or not won't alter these simple facts in the slightest. Thus, bill is a proposed solution to a non-existent problem -- and a waste of both time and tax-payer money.
Michigan, like all the other states of this great country, has been greatly enriched by the contributions of immigrants from all over the planet. People come here, and they and their children learn English. Indeed, if you were to ask any immigrant today, if they expect to see their native language pass onto their grandchildren, almost all of them will tell you 'no.' While HB 5633 may appear to be a simple 'no-brainer' to some, many other issues will be impacted if this bill becomes law: immigration and education funding being two areas that immediately come to mind.
But other issues are clearly raised as well. Do the sponsors of this legislation want Michigan to be more like the French? France has long sought to 'protect' the French language and culture. It even has formed a governmental agency -- the Academie Francaise of France, as the arbiter of the French language. And what about Michigan's flag and state seal, both of which contain Latin words and phrases. Will those historic symbols of the state need to be changed to comply with this proposed new law? And exactly what form of English? While we share a common language with Great Britain, anyone who has traveled to the other side of the Atlantic will quickly realize that Americanized English differs from that of the Queen's English.
Ultimately, other than some of the questions raised, this bill does little, if not nothing, other than send a wrong message of intolerance. Thus, I voted 'no' on House Bill 5633."
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crazycajun



- Joined on 11-22-2008
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is it "ethnocentric" to state that english be the official language?
is it "ethnocentric" to speak "ebonics" instead of plain english?
when my great-great grandparents hit shore, they had to learn english, even though they spoke cajun french at home.
being multi-lingual is a great gift, and a great achievement. being incapable of speaking the native language of the country you live in, and refusing to even try to is not "ethnocentric", it's bigoted.
michigan constitution, article 1. Sec. 6.
Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.
keep your powder dry.
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." Bovard 1994
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Anonymous Citizen


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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Language is not defined nor permanent
First after reading many comments, I would clarify that "American (or America)" is not a language. To say "this is America (after Amerigo Vespucci, by the way), speak English"; is the equivalent of saying this is Brazil, speak Portuguese."
This is a land of outsiders. It was settled by Spanish, French, and English among others. when the Dutch landed in New Amsterdam they didn't speak English, nor I doubt did they learn it before they died.
The Chippewa spoke Chippewa, the Sioux spoke Sioux and the Cree, Cree until the massacres--which I imagine were prompted by dialogues just like this one.
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Anonymous Citizen


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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Language is not defined nor permanent
First after reading many comments, I would clarify that "American (or America)" is not a language. To say "this is America (after Amerigo Vespucci, by the way), speak English"; is the equivalent of saying this is Brazil, speak Portuguese."
This is a land of outsiders. It was settled by Spanish, French, and English among others. when the Dutch landed in New Amsterdam they didn't speak English, nor I doubt did they learn it before they died.
The Chippewa spoke Chippewa, the Sioux spoke Sioux and the Cree, Cree until the massacres--which I imagine were prompted by dialogues just like this one.
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Anonymous Citizen


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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One language does not discount diversity
To cater to immigrants, then, how many languages should web pages and official documents be available in -- ALL of them? Consider other countries: how many can you name without also knowing their official language? Think of Italy, Portugal, Norway, Russia, Japan, China, Egypt, Brazil, Algeria. The nations with no official language is indeed short. All have immigrants, and the immigrants conform. It is part of adopting and and adapting to a country and a culture they have chosen. To insist on establishing a subculture is to reject the country. This is what we are seeing - not Americans, but Mexicans living in America.
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