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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>“Take It Outside”</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/22.aspx</link><description>Discussions completely unrelated to public policy issues.</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 (Debug Build: 30417.1769)</generator><item><title>Re: why do dumbocrats hate guns?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272819.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:19:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:272819</guid><dc:creator>uber-liberal</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272819.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=22&amp;PostID=272819</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;i have noticed that the left has slowed it&amp;#39;s rabid attack on the second amendment now that the supreme court has ruled that it is a personal right, not a right held only by the militia or the national guard. i&amp;#39;m interested to see&amp;nbsp;how that decision &amp;#39;trickles down&amp;#39; to the local and state level, and whether or not states like michigan will be called to task in the federal courts to get rid of useless programs such&amp;nbsp;as gun registration and permits to purchase.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why do dumbocrats hate guns?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/270712.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:43:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:270712</guid><dc:creator>crazycajun</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/270712.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=22&amp;PostID=270712</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;it would APPEAR ALTRUISTIC that democrats DON&amp;#39;T HATE GUNS. they have people with guns with them all the time, police officers and bodyguards, but no armed citizens.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;they cackle on about LOVING the second amendment ALMOST as much as they love the first. (heaven forbid the&amp;nbsp;government&amp;nbsp;take away their freedom of speech by force.) but don&amp;#39;t do much about it. they DO keep on coming up with ineffective programs that are aimed at disarming the public, and dump billions of tax dollars into them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;for example. how much do gun boards cost the state of michigan? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;they don&amp;#39;t fight crime, for not one crime has been solved by the gun board. they don&amp;#39;t PREVENT crime, for again, not one single crime has been prevented by the gun board. they DO duplicate effort. which is wasteful in anybody&amp;#39;s book.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;they also effectively hinder and some would even say ABRIDGE the citizen&amp;#39;s right to keep and bear arms. recent posts citing the gun laws in kennisaw only touch upon the KEEP aspect of the second amendment. the PERMIT to carry a concealed weapon is an abridgement of the AND BEAR ARMS provision. permits should be struck down and free carry should replace it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;how many crimes has GUN REGISTRATION SOLVED? absolutely none.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;how many crimes CAN gun registration solve? absolutely none.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;why do we register guns? so that the state can know where they are to confiscate them. there is no other legitimate purpose for registration. it&amp;#39;s not even a REASONABLE control on guns, as there is no REASON to&amp;nbsp; register them other than to violate the gun rights of the citizens.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i will believe that the legislators are FOR gun control when they limit the places and times their own bodyguards can go armed. until then, i can only believe that gun control is meant to disarm law abiding citizens.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why do dumbocrats hate guns?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/270660.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:48:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:270660</guid><dc:creator>crazycajun</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/270660.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=22&amp;PostID=270660</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;it seems that old trueblue has no opinion (at least in public) about disarming the populace.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;he does keep on spouting the socialist line.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;an armed prolitariat ISN&amp;#39;T prolitariat. he is a CITIZEN.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>why do dumbocrats hate guns?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/269611.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:03:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:269611</guid><dc:creator>crazycajun</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/269611.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=22&amp;PostID=269611</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;the dumbocrats have tried (unsuccessfully) for seventy five years to disarm the population. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;why?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;is it because they fear an armed populace?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;is it because a man with a gun cannot be cowered into accepting unjust treatment?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;is it because tyrants fear those that can stand up for themselves?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i&amp;#39;m interested to find out what true/false thinks of this.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>