“Take It Outside”

what makes an anti-hunter?

crazycajun — Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:45:48 GMT

with all the discussion about banning feeding deer for any reason, one has to wonder what does it take to make a person into an anti-hunter?

simple "bambi-ism" doesn't quite seem to completely cover it. i'd be interested to hear from our outstanding team of anti-hunters to give us some clues as to what conspired to make them into the freedom hating zealots that they are.

what is patriotism?

silence dogood — Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:23:28 GMT

another simple question.

i'm interested to hear your views.

Motel Reservations

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Motel Reservations

accountability

crazycajun — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:20:50 GMT

okay, so granmole is moving on to 'bigger and better things', when are we going to be 'BLOWN AWAY'? it seems that she is leaving just when all the hard work is needing to be done. what's up with that?

hmmm... could it be that she NEVER INTENDED TO DO ANYTHING AT ALL OTHER THAN TO GET APPOINTED TO A CABINET POST?

i certainly don't see anything positive she accomplished here. i think we've been lied to again.

well, this opens up a great opportunity to hold president obama responsible for all of his promises, as well as each and every other elected official out there. it's time to hold their feet to the fire.

don't promise what you don't plan on delivering. jennie never learned that, now she's out.

the job of government?

crazycajun — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:46:04 GMT

i'd be interested to hear what democrats think the job of government is, and why they think that it is wrong for the people to try and do that job for themselves?

for example,

is it the JOB OF GOVERNMENT to provide for the poor?

is it the JOB OF GOVERNMENT to protect us from being offended?

is it the JOB OF GOVERNMENT to educate our children?

is it the JOB OF GOVERNMENT to make you happy?

is it the JOB OF GOVERNMENT to provide you a job?

will the left be mad at the president for increasing the debt?

bugman — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:16:42 GMT

will all those who were mad at 'W' for eight years be mad at our current president? his plan, with the blessings of congress is to increase our debt by a TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. the left wanted 'W's head for a lot less than that. let's see if they hold the current president to the same accountability as they held the last one.

do the citizens of michigan have the freedom of choice?

silence dogood — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:03:10 GMT

it's a simple question, but it is at the root of so many of our debates on this thread, because it is at the root of so many pieces of legislation in this state.

the debate over abortion is, at it's root, whether or not the mother has the freedom to choose whether or not to kill the person growing inside of her. in which case, the freedom of choice is whether or not to commit murder.

the debate over smoking bans is, at the root, about whether or not a citizen has the right to choose to do something that others feel is bad for him.

the debate over motorcycle helmets is, at the root, basically the same question, whether a citizen has the right to choose what is not necessarily the best option in other people's eyes.

this takes the 'surface debate' away and gets to the root of the question.

i'm interested to hear your opinions.

Liberal Agenda ??

TrueBlue — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:38:24 GMT

For a very long time I have been hearing about a "Liberal Agenda".
I think it is worth examining, as it rolls off the rightwingers
tongues with a loathing and easy contempt.

What is it ??
If, by "liberal agenda" they mean....

Keeping Social Security viable for those most in need in our
society and those who have already worked a lifetime
contributing to a system geared to regular folks.
Something the "right" wants to "privatize",in other
words eliminate.

To insure Government regulation of
"for profit" companies so we don't have rampant corporate
theft and massive exploitation of hard working Americans.

(Ie. the current conservative/republican caused economic collapse)

To insure Government regulation of the food industry.
So people wont have to test their own ground beef for
mad cow or Ecoli.

To insure Government regulation of
imported goods.So YOU don't have to test for dangerous
lead content.

Government regulation is government doing
its job!

To ensure that those who have the ability to go
on to higher education do so.

To insure Universal health care for all Citizens.I

If we can afford a war we can afford health
care for all Americans.

When our government tells us that
"Universal Health care for Iraqi's is sound policy, but for
Americans its SOCIALISM, its time for a new government.

If every individual is "entitled" an attorney, whether
or not he/she can afford one, than I believe by virtue of
citizentry alone, EVERY American is "ENTITLED" to
Universal health care.

Insurance companies "compassion" for
my illness should not end where their PROFIT/LOSS margins begin.

If my health determines your profit and my illness decides
your loses,than you would want me either... healthy or dead.
That's NOT a very good system for health care.

To insure our nation never invades, attacks or aggrieves any
Sovereign nation(s) that commit no provocation or threat.
Such as Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Iraq.

To insure "equal protection under the law"For all people.
Not just some people but all people.Not just some rights
but all rights.If you fall into the category of Human Being,
you are "entitled" to the same rights as all other
people.Straight people, gay people, black people,
religious people,non-religious people, ALL... people.

Please let us all remember these words;
"Those who will not stand up for the rights of others put
their own rights in danger of being lost as well."

To insure that there is freedom of religion.
To insure that YOUR freedom of religion ends where MINE begin,religious or otherwise.

To insure that everyone pays their fair share of taxes.

"Taxes are the price our society pays to invoke the word
Civilization upon itself"~~Thomas Jefferson ***

Anyone who would insinuate that taxing someone $3 million on an income of $10 million a year, is being "punished" for their hard work is among the worlds biggest lunatics.

#1 anyone who "makes" $10 million a year is NOT digging
ditches or working hard. (He may have done so to get there
but lets be clear, once he gets there he is NOT working hard.)

Hard work is many things, it is also hard work to be really
poor with no job. Ask a welfare recipient if its not hard
work trying to make ends meet? Try to figure out how to
pay $1660 worth of expenses on $1100 a month. Gas or electric?
Telephone or cable?Clothes or rent? Food or medicine?
Can't imagine? No, neither can I !

#2 It is NOT punishment to pay your fair share!!
"To those whom much is given, much is expected"

To insure the basic necessities of existence for every citizen.
Food, shelter, health care, disaster relief.

To do any less is not humane, to do more is Private charity.

To rely on private charity alone leads to the following;
Private charity leads to public homelessness.

Private charity breeds demoralization and contempt.

OUR RIGHT TO, OUR ENTITLEMENT TO, THESES THINGS:
"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"
These are things that are not for sale and have been paid for
IN FULL by the Americans that came before us.
For ....all Americans.

Anyone having a problem with these precepts must have
a problem with the Constitution and the notion
"United We Stand".

And finally, To forever insure the proper correlation between
our law and our justice.

Our Future, will of course, end up being our children's history.
How will you, YOU, write that book?
Think your vote means little? Think again.

Liberal Agenda??? It use to be called the American Way.

US ARMY VET

For republican voters, that's THOMAS Jefferson~3rd President Not GEORGE Jefferson~the dry cleaner ***

why do dumbocrats hate guns?

crazycajun — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:03:32 GMT

the dumbocrats have tried (unsuccessfully) for seventy five years to disarm the population.

why?

is it because they fear an armed populace?

is it because a man with a gun cannot be cowered into accepting unjust treatment?

is it because tyrants fear those that can stand up for themselves?

i'm interested to find out what true/false thinks of this.

Nicest thing you can say about Ronny Reagan is......He's DEAD !

TrueBlue — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:24:06 GMT

Ronny Reagan's Record

1. First to turn America into a DEBTOR nation

2. First to increase DEBT faster than growth of national income in eight years

3. First to increase DEBT faster than growth of gdp over eight years

4. First to double the deficit in just eigh t years

5. First to almost: triple the national DEBT in just eight years

6. First to increase SPENDING by 80%--over 8 years.

7. First to SPEND more in eight years than was spent in prior 50 years.

8. First to have real INTEREST RATES of 8% after averaging 1% over 35 years.

9. First to keep PRIME INTEREST RATES at 20%.

10.First to over value the dollar to the yen at rate of 262 yen to 1 dollar.

11.First to have served as Governor and increase STATE SPENDING by 112%

12.First to have HOME LOAN INTEREST RATES as high as 16%

13. First to CUT TAXES by 60% for his rich pals

14. First to allow the SAVINGS AND LOAN INDUSTRY to be raided after signing a deregulatory bill
and proclaiming I think we have hit the jackpot. Come and get it the vaults are unguarded.

15. First to deal with TERRORISTS

16. First to send an AUTOGRAPHED BIBLE to a man he called The Satan of Terrorists.

17. First to have an ADMIRAL plead the Fifth Amendment.

18. First to have a stealing, lying, gutless wife abusing MARINE LT. COLONEL plead the Fifth Amendment.

19. First to have a sitting CABINET MEMBER INDICTED

20. First to have an ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE INDICTED.

21. First to have an ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE SENT TO PRISON.

22. First to have over 100 MEMBERS OF AN ADMINISTRATION CHARGED WITH CRIMES..

23. First to have more members of his administration charged with crimes than CUMULATIVE TOTAL
OF ALL OTHER PRESIDENTS in the twentieth century

24. First to set a record for the LARGEST ONE DAY PERCENTAGE DECLINE in the DOW in history. 10-19-87

25. First to have over $10,000,000 INCREASE IN WEALTH from serving for 8 years as president.

26. First to testify under oath 130 times that I DONT REMEMBER .

27. First to have an Admiral with a photographic memory testify 128 times I DONT REMEMBER.

28. First to undergo BRAIN SURGERY a few months after leaving office. No pain no gain.

29. First to, repeatedly, FALSIFY HIS WIFES AGE. As tho anyone cared.

30. First to promote his religious faith and never have an ACTIVE CHURCH MEMBERSHIP.

31. First to never use the term JESUS CHRIST in speeches.

32. First to seek GUIDANCE FROM THE STARS not from God

33. First to have had a SHOTGUN WEDDING.

34. First to have worked as a SHILL in Las Vegas.

35. First to call a Stealing, Lying, Psychotic, wife abusing Marine a LIAR.

36. First to have been OPENLY ALIENATED from his children.

37. First To have served with ALZHIMERS

38. First to have UNEMPLOYMENT AT 10.8% since great depression.

39. First to attack a small unprotected nation with 88,000 inhabitants and 10,000 bb guns then proclaim
-America stands tall again we have whipped the Vietnam Syndrome-we have defeated communism.
Gosh! What if we had whipped Cyprus?.

40. #1-in FARM FORECLOSURES

41. #1-In BANK FAILURES

42. #1-In SAVINGS AND LOAN FAILURES

43. #1-In Percent increase in PERSONAL BANKRUPTCIES

44. #1-In recorded MISSTATEMENTS

45. #1-In never having a single press conference in which he did not make at least one or more INCORRECT STATEMENTS.

46. #1-In needing a staff person standby during press conferences to tell the press WHAT HE REALLY MEANT.

47. #1-In having SERVICEMEN KILLED during peacetime.

48. #1-In largest DROP IN POPULARITY in one week.

49. #1-In being first to HONOR NAZI STORM TROOPERS by calling them Innocent Victims

50. #1-In being first to be labeled BRAIN DEAD AFFABLE DUNCE by this writer.

51. First to lie-over and over-to reporters I DO NOT DYE MY HAIR my barber uses a special shampoo

52. First to have a wife who forced him to WEAR THREE SUITS in one day

53. First to boast Not bad for a DUMB GUY who worked only 20 hours per week.

54. First to have his wife sit nearby and WHISPER ANSWERS to questions

55. First to FALL ASLEEP while the Pope spoke

56. First to invite the Pope to visit the White House and BRING THE WIFE AND KIDS

57. First to have his press secretary remove him from the microphone because he could not answer questions.
Then, as the reporter yelled out answer my question he replied MY HANDLERS WONT LET ME SPEAK.
Quick get the white coat.

58. First 20th Century president to have historians RATE HIM BELOW every president of the 20th except for Richard Nixon. 1994 Poll.

59. First to give us a First Lady with a past reputation for giving the BEST BJ in Hollywood.

60. First to suggest his eldest son undergo PSYCHIATRIC examination

61. First to have been voted in British polls (twice) as the MOST FEARED LEADER IN THE WORLD sic em Rambo.

62. First to serve as Governor on a conservative platform and INCREASE SPENDING BY 112%.

63. First Governor TO INCREASE personal income taxes by 60%, tax increase on cigarettes by 200%, state tax collections by 152%.

64. First to have a Special Assistant say on national TV sometimes you had to HIT HIM ON THE HEAD with a 2 x 4 to get his attention

65. First to have his official biographer state on national TV After he was shot in 1981 he GOT SLOWER AND SLOWER EACH YEAR.
His speech got slower. He deliberated more and he hesitated more when he spoke. He lost his physical quickness and would not make
decisions on the spot. It was a very, very slow and steady mental and physical decline.

66. First to have a POPULARITY RATING OF ONLY 35% after his first two years in office.

67. First president to have been DIVORCED

68. First president to have the Geriatrics Department of a major university study his behavior and conclude that
AFTER THREE YEARS IN OFFICE HE HAD ALZHIMERS.

Great line

TrueBlue — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:59:41 GMT

Below is a line that should be a lesson to all ignorant republicans when it comes to our country illegally invading other countries under the guise of bringing them "freedom" with the cost of our childrens blood.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson

Republican love of America !

TrueBlue — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:48:54 GMT

Republicans wave the flag, wear flag lapel pins, claim to "love America".
How can ANYONE exhibiting these characteristics do the following...

#1 Attempt to eliminate Social Security.

#2 Succeed in elimination of Student aid and Student loans for education.

#3 Succeed in "gutting" Americas social services (Unemployment, SSI, Disability,Food stamps)

#4 Attempt to turn public roads, highways and bridges into private toll roads.

#5 Claim to spread "freedom and democracy" everywhere EXCEPT the USA.

#6 Enact "business friendly" laws which actually mean "exploit" hard working Americans.

#7 Claim that Universal health care for Iraqis and Israelis is "sound policy" but Universal health care for Americans is... SOCIALISM.

#8 Claim that Republican debt is somehow better for the country than Democratic surplus.

#9 Cut funding and benefits of Veterans.

#10.... Destroyed the American economy by intentional deciet or accidental stupidity.

So the question remains .."Why do Republicans, who claim to love America, clearly hate Americans?"

US ARMY VET

Things you must believe to be a republican.......

TrueBlue — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:20:27 GMT

Things you have to believe to be a Republican today:

#1 Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

#2 Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.

#3 The Constitution is NOT a living document.--- Bill of rights? Amendments? What DAT?

(repub voters skip #3, you dont have the education to understand what is meant)

(I can see the head scratching already)

#4 The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing UN resolutions against Iraq.

#5 A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multinational corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.

#6 Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals.

#7 The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

$8 If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

#9 A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our longtime allies, then demand their cooperation and money.

#10 Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.

#11 HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the public at heart.

#12Global warming is junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools.

#13 A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense.

#14 A president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.

#15 Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.

#16 The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.

#17 Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness, and you need our prayers for your recovery.

#18 You support states' rights, which means Attorney General John Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they have the right to adopt.

#19 What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.

#20 Republican debt is better for the country than Democratic Surplus.

Biggest recipients of assistance are republicans. Why do they vote AGAINST themselves??

TrueBlue — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:29:11 GMT

WELFARE:

90% Of Red States are Welfare Client States of the federal government. They collect more from the federal government than they send in </o:p>

INCOME:

Of all 50 states per-capita income, the top 6 are all Blue States. The highest per-capita Red State (iColoradoi - 34,519) is 7th from the top.>

Of all 50 states per-capita income, the bottom 19 are all Red States. The lowest per-capita Blue State (iOregoni- 28,806) is 20th from the bottoom

Of the top 25 (1/2-50%) per-capita income states, 17 are Blue States (68%) and 8 are Red States (32%)

Of the bottom 25 (1/2-50%) per-capita income states, 23 are Red States (92%) and 2 are Blue States (8%)

Source: U.S. Office of Economic Statistics

why do democrats want to be responsible for your health and safety?

crazycajun — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:40:36 GMT

given a choice, a democrat will always ASSUME that it's up to the government to protect you from harm (from criminals, for example) by having you finance a large police department.

they will also, if given a chance, try to get you to buy into UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE.

what is it about being a democrat that causes such stirrings in otherwise intelligent people's hearts?

what causes them to feel that they must solve the "problem" of people being unsafe by hiring "protection" with our money?

why do they feel that the government would provide a better healthcare system than the one we have now?

i'm interested to hear the reasons they think that way.

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Understanding "Liberal" and "Liberalism"

SaneMichigander — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:00:20 GMT

crazycajun:

one more little fact that USUALLY keeps liberals from banning alcohol at the local level. ...

Actually, liberals are far less inclined to ban things as they are to permit them.

Relative permissiveness is the essence of true liberalism, which celebrates individual freedom and personal choice – the guiding principle upon which our United States of America was founded as a nation.

Unfortunately, real liberals today are few and far between and darned hard to find anywhere along the political spectrum. That is a shame.

liberal worries

crazycajun — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:54:12 GMT

where is the left going to get money when all the businesses have abandoned this hell-hole of a state for greener pastures?

where is the left going to get votes when all the WORKING PEOPLE evacuate to other states to get jobs?

all they will have left are those who voted them in but refuse to support them, or themselves.

oh, whatever are they going to do????

Joey the Republican

TrueBlue — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:42:26 GMT

(A great little story, worth the repost)

A Day in the Life of Joe Republican

Joe gets up at 6am and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards.

With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications is paid by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his workday. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union member fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.

If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get workers compensation check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of a temporary misfortune.

It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.

Joe has to pay Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the country would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe forgets that in addition to his federally subsidized student loan, he attended a state funded university.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the taxpayer funded roads. (Not private toll roads)

He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking cheese eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that the liberals are bad and conservatives are good.

He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day and takes for granted today.

Joe agrees: We don't need those big government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have.

Conservative republican "Hero's".

TrueBlue — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:40:33 GMT

List of CONSERVATIVE Republican "hero's"

Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/4787611/detail.html

* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9807E6DE1331F935A35752C0A9629C8B63

* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1831105

* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business. (3/4 of the way down the page of this article, one small paragraph) http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/homepage/article_1158949.php

* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano was arrested for sexually molesting a 14-year-old girl. (June 9, 2006 Times Union, Albany NY) archived article http://www.capitalnews9.com/content/top_stories/default.asp?ArID=182130

* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls. http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060421/NEWS/60421005

* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester. http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050902/REPOSITORY/509020305/0/FRONTPAGE

* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/Giordano.htm

* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet. http://www.sun-times.com/output/news/cst-nws-mayor25.html

* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/John_Gosek.htm

* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/David_Swartz.htm

* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter (INCEST) between the ages of 9 and 17. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/misla.htm

* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor. http://www.topix.net/forum/county/polk-fl/TS2CM3KR3RLQQ4GIN

* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida. http://news.tbo.com/news/MGB16Y1NV6E.html

* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered. http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/special_packages/btk/

* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/morency2.htm

* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. http://easyreader.hermosawave.net/news2001/0621/rb%20Shortridge.asp

* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb1367/is_200403/ai_n6383164

* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile. http://www.kcci.com/news/3976822/detail.html

* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=1913548

* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial. http://www.themonitor.com/SiteProcessor.cfm?Template=/GlobalTemplates/Details.cfm&StoryID=7544&Section=Local

* Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s. http://www.thelawparty.org/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s. http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/02/1570946_comment.php

* Republican Congressman Donald Buz Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail. http://www.congressionalbadboys.com/Lukens.htm

* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos. http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/2153721/detail.html

* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children. http://mediastudy.com/articles/av5-26-05.html

* Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child. http://www.unknownnews.net/RepublicanFamilyValues.html#RandalDavidAnkeney

* Republican Congressman Dan Crane & Gerry Studds had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Page_sex_scandal

* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter. http://canadiancynic.blogspot.com/2005/10/child-molestation-christian-coalition.html

* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography. http://www.vachss.com/help_text/reports/ronald_kline.html

* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. http://www.answers.com/topic/robert-bauman

* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/jeffrey_patti.htm

* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. Republican Marty), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD. http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Republican_Marty

* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. http://www.sacbee.com/static/live/news/calreport/N2001-11-22-2300-0.html

* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/hathaway1.htm

* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him. http://www.yaledailynews.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=23709

* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl. http://www.fortbendnow.com/news/1608/former-radio-host-arrested-for-allegedly-violating-probation-in-child-indecency-case

* Republican anti-gay activist Earl Butch Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/kimmerling.htm

http://mediastudy.com/articles/av5-26-05.html

* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison. http://members.aol.com/IngramOrg/

* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/5/161648.shtml

* Republican politician Andrew Buhr and Ralf Rathmann charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy. http://www.thevitalvoice.com/2002/2002_1227/rathmann.html

* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). http://www.armchairsubversive.com/Keith%20Westmoreland.htm

* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/john_allen_burt.htm

* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child. http://starbulletin.com/2000/07/20/news/briefs.html

* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl. http://www.einnews.com/chile/newsfeed-chile-crime

* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters. http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2002/Oct-30-Wed-2002/news/19951668.html

* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. http://5thestate.com/030628.htm

* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. http://boothbayregister.maine.com/1998-11-12/barter_indicted.html

* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/Smeltzer4.htm

* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. http://www.colecountysheriff.org/databases/Sex%20Offender%20List_1.html

* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/schwarz.htm

* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/Vanderwall.htm

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Robin_Vanderwall

* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a good military man and church goer, was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison http://quinnell.us/politics/family.html

* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/grunseth.htm

* Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls. http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/06/gop_campaign_ma.html

* Republican director of the Young Republican Federation Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. Scrivner also mentioned the sad case of Nicholas Elizondo, a YR Federation board member convicted of molesting a 6-year-old girl and sent to prison several years ago. Scrivner said people telephoned the wrong YR office to express their outrage after the story hit the news. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/Nicholas_Elizondo.htm

* Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer. http://www.armchairsubversive.com/Russell_Harding.htm

* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A1426-2004Aug14?language=printer

Randall David Ankeney is described in an article in the September 6, 2001 online edition of the Rocky Mountain News as a fixture in El Paso County Republican politics until his arrest in July in a sex scandal involving a young girl. http://www.americanpolitics.com/20011103Ankeney.html

Former Oregon Christian Coalition Leader Confesses to Molesting Relatives

http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Content?oid=51719&category=22101

Crane had engaged in a sexual relationship eith a 17-year-old

http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Dan_Crane

DOYLE HOMELAND SECURITY

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/07/tech/main1482848.shtml

Gov. Neil Goldschmidt admitted yesterday he had a sexual relationship with a 14-year-old girl

http://www.thatliberalmedia.com/archives/001959.html