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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Political Discussions</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/21.aspx</link><description /><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 (Debug Build: 30417.1769)</generator><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/287793.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:15:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:287793</guid><dc:creator>TaterSalad</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/287793.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=287793</wfw:commentRss><description>Islam is now controlling the Democratic Party.  Are these liberal loons delusional?  

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/dnc-announces-2-hour-islamic-jumah-prayers-after-rejecting-cardinals-blessing-and-you-wont-believe-whos-invited/&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/287718.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 02:05:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:287718</guid><dc:creator>TaterSalad</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/287718.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=287718</wfw:commentRss><description>.Liberal Logic:  Ignorance is bliss!

http://houraney.com/2012/08/more-liberal-logic-2/&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/287437.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:25:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:287437</guid><dc:creator>Freerider</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/287437.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=287437</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Quote; &amp;quot;If you don&amp;#39;t have a record you can run on, you have to make your opponent into something voters run away from. The best way to do that is to make small issues into big ones.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Candidate Barack Hussein Obama, 2008.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Notice who can&amp;#39;t run on his record this time around!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/287436.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:48:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:287436</guid><dc:creator>TaterSalad</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/287436.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=287436</wfw:commentRss><description>Time Debbie Stabenow to become unemployed with the rest of her entitlement culture!

..............https://www.facebook.com/ThanksalotDebbie&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273995.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:06:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:273995</guid><dc:creator>bugman</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273995.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=273995</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;our current president is planning on adding a ten trillion dollars to that. almost doubling the debt overnight. we are planning a &amp;#39;pull-out&amp;#39; in iraq to bolster afghanistan. i&amp;#39;m talking about taxing to 10% of gross national product, not gross domestic product. and if you think that the current bailout has not changed ownership of the banks to the government, you need to watch your alphabet news. it has already happened on your current president&amp;#39;s watch. which, of course means he gets an unconditional pass for it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273992.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:47:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:273992</guid><dc:creator>gypsy</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273992.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=273992</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The national debt is now over 11 trillion. Obama inherited that.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are not surrendering in Iraq. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The tax rate as percentage of GDP, which is how it is measured, is 28.3% now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have not nationized, nor are there plans to, any banks. It has been suggested by some republicans though. Sen. Graham for one.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273985.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:25:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:273985</guid><dc:creator>bugman</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273985.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=273985</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;do you consider the current administration&amp;#39;s plan of raising the debt by ten trillion dollars, surrendering in iraq, taxing at 15% of g.n.p. and nationalizing the banks is reform? or socialism?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273965.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:46:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:273965</guid><dc:creator>gypsy</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273965.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=273965</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;I felt the same way for eight years. I&amp;#39;m glad I was able to persevere.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273955.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:55:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:273955</guid><dc:creator>bugman</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273955.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=273955</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;no one has suggested the overthrow of government or revolution. as for your outrage being focused on reform, i don&amp;#39;t see much chance of reform with the current government.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273942.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:09:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:273942</guid><dc:creator>gypsy</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273942.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=273942</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;My outrage is focused on reform, not revolution.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273929.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:25:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:273929</guid><dc:creator>bugman</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273929.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=273929</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;where is your outrage over the injustice, greed, and corruption? all are forms of tyranny. injustice takes away rights and freedom. greed takes away the people&amp;#39;s treasure. and corruption is evil in the face of the public trust. may i trouble you not to give those who are unjust, greedy, and corrupt a pass?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273922.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:04:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:273922</guid><dc:creator>gypsy</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273922.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=273922</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;May I butt in on this conversation with yourself? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is not tyranny in this state, nor in this country, in my opinion. There is injustice, there is greed, there is corruption. There is also alot of really hard working and devoted citizens, both in and out of government, who want to make our system work. Put me in that category. I&amp;#39;m not ready to give up on this government yet.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273915.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:47:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:273915</guid><dc:creator>bugman</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273915.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=273915</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273913.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:28:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:273913</guid><dc:creator>bugman</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273913.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=273913</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/Themes/leanandgreen/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;gypsy:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thomas Jefferson&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;i ask you again, where is your outrage for the tyranny being forced upon the citizens of this state?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: why should we believe what the left says?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273912.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:27:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:273912</guid><dc:creator>bugman</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/273912.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=21&amp;PostID=273912</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;in my mind, words have meaning. say what you mean, mean what you say.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;do you only believe what you can verify? no.&amp;nbsp;why say it if you don&amp;#39;t&amp;nbsp;act on it? to gain &amp;#39;credibility&amp;#39;? the question was why should we believe what the left says. you have not given any reason to believe what they say. the left has a tendency to say one thing and do another. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;if you refuse to educate yourself, then how do you know what the truth is? how do you know who to&amp;nbsp;trust? how do you know who not to trust? &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>