Local Issues and Governments

Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

egorhythmia — Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:37:17 GMT

I think it's abusive to not let people smoke in restaurants... just separate the two groups and everything should be ok in the end. I can't imagine a business that spends tons of money on restaurant supplies will just abandon the biggest part of their clients because of a ruling. There has to be a way to make everyone happy.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

petervlipen1 — Wed, 16 May 2012 16:02:08 GMT

I am a smoker but I am glad about this law, a lot of people will think twice before starting to smoke because smoking will be banned in restaurants, on the streets and so on. Smoking kills millions of people, by making psychic reading I saw that this phenomenon can be stopped. If you are a smoker it`s not fun to go into a restaurant where you are not allowed to smoke so in some time you will realize that smoking is bad for you health and you cannot have fun in any place because it is forbidden to smoke.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

DaveGillie — Mon, 02 Apr 2012 22:17:24 GMT

problem is YOU insist on walking on MY PRIVATE PROPERTY Where i piss, then blame ME for pissing!! silly girl, Nobody FORCES you into smoking establishments (when we had them) just like nobody forces you into MY bathroom.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

albaby2 — Mon, 02 Apr 2012 21:34:58 GMT

OMG! LOL Your post made me look up Ethel Merman's God Bless America recording. You have the right to smoke and I have the right not to have your smoke in my face same as you have the right to keep me from pizzing on your shoes. Swallow your smoke-if it doesn't come out the tube in your throat.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

theboyzmom — Mon, 02 Apr 2012 21:32:50 GMT

I feel so sad for you that you are FORCED to go certain places to eat, visit or work. Too bad you do not live in the USA where we are free. Wait - I must be in a time warp - the current USA tells us what health insurance to buy, how fast to drive, to wear a helmet, no smoking on private property, no packed lunches for kid, and if you have kids you do not have the ability to take care of we will do it for you. Does not sound much like the USA of the founders.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

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Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

FreeSpeaker — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:40:50 GMT

Legislative measures of this sort (the workplace smoking ban) are mandated by the Michigan Constitution.

So, actually the thing to "remember in November" is whether or your State Senator or Representative violated his/her oath of office (to uphold the Michigan Constitution) by voting against this bill. Violation of oath should mean that person does not get your vote, unless, of course, you believe the Michigan Constitution is just a meaningless collection of words. If the oath violator has been term-limited out of running for reelection, or has otherwise chosen to not run, then look to the oath violators' party affiliations for clues as to who should not be elected.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

markah79 — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:40:49 GMT

Remember come November!! Vote out the tyrannical fascists who believe they have the right to take away anything they don't like. I am so tired of the, I don't like it, so you can't have it attitude. So, Remember come November all those who chose to infringe on our freedoms and steal away our choices. These same fascist pigs are going after your soda and candy with taxes and regulations next. They have already taxed tobacco so hard very few people can afford to smoke and people have been forced to chose between feeding there kids, and feeding there smoking habit. Now there working on junk food. When one more law, equals one less choice, we all lose. So, again I tell you, Remember come November!!!!!!

Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

FreeSpeaker — Fri, 14 May 2010 23:02:43 GMT

This law went into effect May 1, and in my part of the state the implementation met with no evident resistance. The whiners have continued to dominate in comments on news stories about it, though, typically repeating the same lame bogus arguments against the law that have appeared here. Most people, though, evidently embrace the new law. That includes bar and restaurant owners.

May 1 can be seen as a day Michigan began to see things clearly again.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

rcross — Wed, 12 May 2010 03:01:49 GMT

No. The ultimate freedom is having the right to choose to be health.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

rcross — Wed, 12 May 2010 02:49:00 GMT

Whether it is in my best interest, for my health, for the my own safety, I don't believe the government should have the right to make that decision for me. I am a rational adult and believe I should be able to make my own decisions about how I live, how I run my business as well as how I conduct my own health and well being.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

rcross — Wed, 12 May 2010 02:40:30 GMT

This is such a personal issue this law should have been taken to the people to vote on in an election. This law should never have been decided by a handful of "representatives" who did not ask the people what they really wanted.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

FreeSpeaker — Mon, 03 May 2010 13:15:37 GMT

saraknack:

This law is unconstitutional.

Oh, c'mon. That is a hollow argument. Quit making that absurd claim without backing it up with actual citations and case law.

Fact is, the law comports with and is virtually mandated by both the US and Michigan Constitutions. See US Constitution Preamble, and the Michigan Constitution Article IV, Sec 51 for reference. Also review case law in respect to police powers of the state.

saraknack:
What gives you the right to dictate?

What gives you the right to dictate that the rest of us have to inhale air fouled by your tobacco smoke?

saraknack:
I may just have to take up smoking in protest of this freedom-supressing law that you had no right to pass.

Hey, now there's just the ticket. You don't like this law and then threaten to take up self-destructive behavior to make me regret that I supported such sensible legislation. Sort of like threatening to, "hold my breath until I turn blue and suffer brain damage and then you'll be sorry." Won't work.

Here's a better suggestion. Take a deep breath of clean air, relax, enjoy life and your new freedom from smoke-filled bars and restaurants, and applaud those legislators who actually honored their oaths of office by voting to enact this law.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

saraknack — Mon, 03 May 2010 01:55:47 GMT

This law is unconstitutional. The government should not be involved in this. If the owner of a private business wants to allow smoking in their establishment the government should not interfere. It is difficult to believe that there is not one public place in the State of Michigan that a law-abiding person can legally have a smoke. Who are you people in Lansing to decide this? What gives you the right to dictate? There are plenty of non-smoking establishments that people can choose to patronize. This is a total infrigment on the freedoms of the people of the State of Michigan. This law should be repealed. I may just have to take up smoking in protest of this freedom-supressing law that you had no right to pass.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4377 (Prohibit allowing restaurant or private workplace smoking )

Freerider — Sat, 01 May 2010 17:05:49 GMT

So, you voted for Granholm...

...how's that working out?

BLOWN AWAY YET?!!