Criminal Law

Re: 2006 House Bill 5622 (Allow conjugal visits in prisons )

silence dogood — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:23:53 GMT

some could make the case that homosexuals are the 'preferred class', and that heterosexuals are the 'abnormal class'. these people would be democrats. they care not for your rights, only for re-election. they are feeders off of the 'gimmee' group as it has come to be called. if you want something, they will promise it to you if you will elect them.

look into yourself, and your loved one. if he is truly innocent, then fight for him.

Re: There ARE innocent people in prison

shellyb1965 — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:16:02 GMT

I agree with you! My husband got a fifteen yr sentence for somthing that was not physically proven! I hate the prosecutors and judges in Gratiot county and all the other counties in this state because all they want is to get re-elected and the judge who sentenced my husband actually LAUGHED when my husband got threatened in court and when he OVER sentenced him but of course we, as wives and families of the accused can't report these tragedies because the state govt doesn't want to hear from us and they all stick together anyway! I used to believe in justice until I saw first hand how they lie just to get a conviction so they will get re-elected!! Does anyone know what we are to do?

Re: 2006 House Bill 5622 (Allow conjugal visits in prisons )

shellyb1965 — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:06:34 GMT

my husband is also in prison in michigan. I don't understand why they do NOT allow conjugal visits for married couples. Our families are just as important as the "normal" family unit. I believe that there would be less violence and rapes in michigan prisons because sex is the number one stress reliever. Its hard enough for the wives of men in prison, without having the God given marriage right and the rights of "normal " married couples in the U.S. Intimacy is a HUMAN right as well as a democratic right and to deny these couples that right is INHUMAN! My husband and I are christians and although society sees our men as "lowlifes and men who don't deserve anything",God sees sin as sin and no one on this earth is without it. I don't care if you're in for CSC, murder, or dwi you deserve fair treatment! I just read where in some states, they allow conjugal visits for Homosexuals! Why should they be treated better and with more respect than that traditional spouses?! Just because its Politically Correct?? I don't think so. How can we shake up the legislators of Michigan to allow this democratic and God given right?

Re: 2006 House Bill 5622 (Allow conjugal visits in prisons )

staceylynn — Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:34:09 GMT

Family visits: I know that there are many views on the subject and those who do not live day in and day out with their loved one can not fully understand the need for just the simply touch. There are many that are quick to not want prisoners to get any additional priveleges but what about the wives children etc.. who did not get that choice and are innocent but yet have to pay for the same sentence. The MDOC does not only sentence the ones who actually have committed the crime but the entire family. As a wife of a prisoner it would benefit a continued marriage and also help with keeping my husband at wanting to do the things necessary to come home.

I am not disagreeing with stipulations to what needs to happen on his part in order for the family visits to take place but i think it is beneficial in helping with the rehabilitation process and integrating back into feeling as a part of the family.

How can we fight for this?? Anyone intereted in getting this bill back into the house?

Family visits

Anonymous Citizen — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:31:59 GMT

People should educate themselves before speaking. 1.Violent offenders, those serving time for sex crimes, and lifers arer not entitled to "family visits." So, someone who is serving time for........hum......let's say DWI should be viewed and treated the same as someone who has sex with their own daughter? Oh......all right. 2. Family visits are earned by good behavior, running program, and not getting in any trouble or write-ups. It is a part of the "rehabilitation" progam within the REHABILITATION program. 3. Inmates, and those spouses participating in family visits are not ingnorant. Should they decide to use protection during intercourse, I'm, pretty sure that the spouse not locked up is capable of going to the store prior to the visit and purchasing the up to 10 condoms.....which are allowed. 4. Family visits implies family visiting. Children, mom, dad, sister, brother of inmate may also participate. The whole theory is to keep families united and as one unit. It also keeps the inmate focused while serving his / her time before going home. All of the uneducated posts were not only entertaining, but made me thankful that I do my research before popping off.

you choose

Anonymous Citizen — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:23:59 GMT

Well, you seem to feel strongly about this conjugal visit thing. But check this out. I don't know anything about prisoners having more std's, but what I do know is that the prisons aren't co-ed. So the longer a man or woman. Is locked up then the more likely they will be to express themselves sexually with whoever the hell is around. Which means a lot of homosexual behavior. So, you would rather have them released back into society as fruity as a fruit loop, influencing your children and perhaps your mate? Or let them get it off every now and then with their spouse? Not to mention who is being punished the spouse or the prisoner? But more importantly, Prison ideally should rehabilitate. Which means corrective behavior. Its expensive and a waste to simply isolate them from the rest of society, just so they can come out bitter and more destructive than they already were. Now don't get me wrong, there should be regulations on the visits. Women should not be allowed to get pregnant, and both parties should be desease free, and sex crime offenders should not be allowed vists, they should pay for the priviledge, like phone calls and such, and perhaps some other things that I have missed. But there are luxeries that prisoners get now that they could do without and probably would gladly do with out for the conjugal visits. One being the cable. On average it costs just as much to house one inmate for 1 ye*r as it does to send s student to college for 4 years. And there isn't any rehabing going on. I think that people need to get their priorities straight. You talk about punishment...well, it's been proven time and time again that positive reinforcement is much more effective than negative reinforcement. The people that go to jail can come out and become assets to society given the right resources. conjugal visits are one of those resources. In most cases prisoners and their families have more than paid for their crimes by the time they are released. Must you also tear their families apart, and their lives after release too. They never seem to be able to repay their debt to society. Imagine yourself In such a sitution. No matter what you do, or how much you've proven that you've changed no one will will give you honest work so that you can take care of the family much less yourself. If the family is even still around after your wife/husband starts to boink some other person.

ignorant and selfish

Anonymous Citizen — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:55:16 GMT

The notion of a conjugal visit sounds fine and dandy to the 'loved one' of the inmates but lets be real. the prison population is statistically high risk for std's so during your fun little romp in the sheets say you give or spread more stds then what, me being a tax payer am supposed to pay for your medication! or if your a female inmate im supposed to fund your medical attention because you get knocked up while in jail with the luxury of a conjugal visit! paaallleeassse! if you are in jail, you are there for a reason! and as far as i am concerned and clearly o i dont know apparently 44 other states (since only six allow conjugal visits) agree that you dont get to have sex with your partner in jail, you dont get to be human when you have done something criminally hainus and have been inprisoned. so forget you

Innocence in prison

Anonymous Citizen — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:41:31 GMT

My husband too is in prison for a crime he did not commit and now the real perpatrator is also in prison but what justice does this bring to my husband who has now sat 3 years for something he did not do. The prosecutors are only interested in saving face and not helping the innocent man. If they think you did it you are screwed no matter what you do.

so, if he's innocent...

Anonymous Citizen — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:30:38 GMT

how did he end up in jail? where was this evidence at trial? did he not bring it up? perhaps he confessed to 'make things easier'.

There ARE innocent people in prison

Anonymous Citizen — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:57:24 GMT

Listen... my husband IS innoncent and we have all the evidence to prove it. But people are so arrogant and stupid that they don't want to sit down and take the time to find the real perpetrators. It's ridiculous. Not EVERYONE who is in prison is guilty. That just comes from the people like the prosecutors who just want to put people away so they don't have to deal with an open case anymore.

HOW SAD

Anonymous Citizen — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:59:55 GMT

HERE IT IS....ALMOST A YEAR LATER AND STILL NO CONJUGAL VISITS....NOT EVEN A VOTE....NOT A STATEMENT...NOTHING...SO AS FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OF INMATES WE MUST ENDURE THE HEARTACHE AND HARDSHIP OF WHAT MADNESS SOCIETY HAS BROUGHT UPON US....THIS SYSTEM IS BROKE AND NO ONE CARES..ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY...HOW MUCH EVERY MAN OR WOMAN IS WORTH...NOT ABOUT WEITHER OR NOT THEY'RE GUILTY OR INNOCENT....HOW VERY SAD ARE WE.

You Are Right

Anonymous Citizen — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:40:19 GMT

It is reeeeal hard to tell the good guys from the bad guys anymore. The prosecutors just want to close cases so they look like they are doing something. If this requires beating a "confession" out of someone then that is what they do. It really doesn't matter if they actually have the bad guy.

IF you could feel the pain

Anonymous Citizen — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:52:09 GMT

YOur sarcasm is unwanted. More people go to prison every year for crimes they have not comitted because prosecutors would rather not hash these cases out in court and bully these poor guys into taking a plea because not only does this save the government money but it also makes them look good. I pray that you never have a loved one or yourself end up in prison for something you did not do.

wow....

Anonymous Citizen — Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:49:54 GMT

Too bad not everyone is as perfect as some claim to be....and you know everyone is guilty how?..oh you must be God.....I pray on your judgement day that you have done something better than judge people....thats not your job.

WOW! Another innocent person in prison

Anonymous Citizen — Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:00:35 GMT

Isn't it amazing that everyone in prison is innocent? I have never heard of anyone that isn't. Fry em all.