http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/19.aspxLaw Enforcement, Crime & PunishmentenCommunityServer 2008 (Debug Build: 30417.1769)http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219278.aspxWed, 21 Jun 2006 17:53:36 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219278Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219278.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219278concept of "bearing arms for the defense of yourelf and the state"? if you are carrying a knife, you are "armed", if "only" with a knife. as a previous poster said, never carry a knife to a gunfight. but i add, that every gunfighter i know ALSO carries a knife. it's not the THING, it's how you USE the thing that makes it a weapon.http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219279.aspxWed, 21 Jun 2006 12:38:07 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219279Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219279.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219279only property owners should be allowed to vote.http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219280.aspxWed, 21 Jun 2006 12:37:32 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219280Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219280.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219280"able to be swung in multiple directions without changing grip or hand position" If this scenario were correct you would only get to swing it once before taking one in the coconut. Your statement assumes that whoever is getting the knife swung at is unarmed. Don't ever bring a knife (even a scary one) to a gun fight.http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219277.aspxWed, 21 Jun 2006 12:34:32 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219277Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219277.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219277"Don't feel bad though, many people think a knife is a knife is a knife and a gun is a gun is a gun. Its those people who vote without fully considering the details of the subject that scare the hell out of me." People that want to ban inanimate objects because they are on a power trip "scare the hell out of me". A gun or a knife never hurt anyone, even the scary looking ones that you would like to use as a first step towards disarming us.http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219262.aspxWed, 21 Jun 2006 12:02:06 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219262Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219262.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219262he couldn't advance the liberal agenda of disarming you completely.http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219282.aspxFri, 09 Jun 2006 14:26:53 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219282crazycajun0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219282.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219282to paraphrase a lib from another thread on this site... show me 100 cases where someone has been killed or maimed by a multi-bladed device, and i'll believe that this law is a good idea. (not really, i'll NEVER believe that this law is a good idea...)http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219270.aspxThu, 25 May 2006 17:02:24 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219270Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219270.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219270Repeat after me sheeple -- IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY OUR MONEY AND HOW THEY CAN GET MORE OF OUR MONEY!http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219269.aspxThu, 25 May 2006 15:57:11 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219269crazycajun0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219269.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219269here's a thought... how about ENFORCING the laws as they stand... tack on weapons charges to the already extensive list of offenses of the REAL CRIMINALS that would be arrested if they could get the law enforcement officers away from the bar parking lots waiting for a drunk driver to stagger out and get near his car... ooops... i'm sorry... REAL criminals don't pay the state thousands of dollars when they get caught... enforce the law, don't shoot fish in a barrel...http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219261.aspxThu, 25 May 2006 15:54:08 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219261crazycajun0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219261.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219261cuz it would stop them from "doing something" about "crime"... right, wrong, or indifferent... the more laws that are passed, the more they can say... "Look... i'm DOING SOMETHING..."http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219242.aspxSat, 10 Dec 2005 21:26:48 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219242Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219242.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219242They probably are sitting around smoking dope. What else could make them come up with these screwy ideas?http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219241.aspxMon, 07 Nov 2005 12:47:03 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219241Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219241.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219241These guys get paid big bucks and have to do something. If they don't sit around and come up with more laws folks might think they are not doing anything. I for one would rather have them sit around smoking dope...they would be less dangerous to freedom.http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219276.aspxSun, 06 Nov 2005 20:07:05 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219276Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219276.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219276I'm sorry you can't see that the different design dictates the usage. Maybe a better example will open your eyes. You don't hunt deer with a fully-automatic machine gun and you don't do drive by shootings with a level action rifle. But both are equally dangerous. A single bladed locking knife is deadly, but a multibladed knife has more ways to harming people. Don't feel bad though, many people think a knife is a knife is a knife and a gun is a gun is a gun. Its those people who vote without fully considering the details of the subject that scare the hell out of me.http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219281.aspxFri, 04 Nov 2005 22:43:51 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219281Cambeul410http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219281.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219281The proposed law is pure grand-standing on the part of the sponsors. What is the last time you heard of some one being attacked with such a weapon -- especially in a way not already illegal on one or more levels? There is no problem that merits yet another law. There is only fear-mongering.http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219275.aspxFri, 04 Nov 2005 16:12:14 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219275Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219275.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219275Do they actually allow you to vote? Yours is perhaps the most stupid, the most idiotic and nonsensical comment that I have ever read on this site!http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219274.aspxFri, 04 Nov 2005 14:11:06 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:219274Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/219274.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=19&PostID=219274I feel the important thing in this issue is that the blade (multi-blade or multi-edged) is able to be swung in multiple directions without changing grip or hand position. This would make a multibladed/edged weapon more dangerous and/or deadly. As I read the text, it doesn't sound like a single edged knive with a safety locking blade is what this proposal is talking about. Imagine a tennis player, his wrist doesn't turn over when he has to hit a backhand shot, he just uses the other side of the racket. If he had to turn his wrist over to use the same side of the racket for every swing, his backhand would be less powerful, less accurate, slower and unnatural feeling.