Civil Law

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

peppie — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:30:01 GMT

what do yall think the chance of the bill passing this year now that they have a criminal justice committee that help them focus on the bill more

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

yellis01 — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:01:44 GMT

Hey All. I just contacted Rep Oakes office and was informed that they will be re-introducing this bill possibly as soon as next week, it will be HB 4186. I suggest we all take an active role in this legislation session, first by writing your congresspersons from your individual areas to let them know this issue is important to you so it should be to them as well, second by following its progression and attending any hearings regarding this bill. I have done this before myself and it truly helps when they can see whom the legislation affects and why it is important to act on it. Third, I also suggest that we start stalking the speaker of the house also, as he is the decision maker as to which bills go before the house to be voted on, if enough of us make a stink, possibly he will be motivated to call on this bill instead of passing it by! I firmly believe the only way to get what we want is to fight for it, this time I think if we can come together and start getting the word out about this legislation as much as we can it might make a difference, we may finally be heard! I was thinking about making a facebook page, I don't think it can hurt right? During my masters program, I was working on a research design proposal for a case study to learn why so few of Michigan residents with criminal records don't apply for expungement. Do any of you think this would help? All we have is speculation as to why an estimated average of 3,000 folks apply annually, this number does not reflect how many people were approved, just the application totals. I read an article last year that stated over 700,000 people had criminal records in Michigan, this was gleaned from census data. I also learned from someone that the $50 app fee also plays a part, I know some of us would gladly pay $50 or more to clear our records, I was operating under the impression that this possibly could be useful for the bureaucrats to see this kind of data (from the proposed research study) but then again, I also read the analysis that they have done for these bills and it clearly states in black and white that this is good legislation (4106) and the arguments against it are outweighed by the arguments for it. I know this may seem like a slap in the face but the analysis done for SB 0159 that passed in 2011 stated that they did not recommend that this bill be passed, that instead they should pass the broader bill HB4106, so I guess that shows how effective these analysis are in helping the bureaucrats make a decision. Again, I think it goes back to taking an active role in our legislative sessions to get the bills we want passed. If none of us is making it an issue or taking it seriously or supporting this bill outside of this little forum then how can we expect anyone else to care or act on our behalf, we have to do the work and it starts today with you, me, and whoever else this may affect.

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

thekaisho42 — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:57:15 GMT

The bill did not go anywhere and died after it was returned to the House Judiciary Committee. If I were a betting man, I would say it was returned to the committee because it was the same day those two yahoos robbed a bank in Ravenna, MI and a Walker, MI police officer, Trevor Slot, was killed when they ran him over near Grand Rapids, MI. After that, not one person in the Legislature was going to touch that bill because it had the "appearance" of being soft on crime. No politician, with a police officer newly deceased, was going to touch this "toxic" proposal with a 10 foot battle lance. Now that HB 4106 is dead, there will be a need for a new proposal using the same arguments as before. This will need to be proposed by more than one representative or senator to gain traction, but, only one will do in a pinch. Write your local senator and representative about this topic and REMIND THEM THAT AL THAT IS NEEDED NOW IS TO REMOVE THE AGE RESTRICTION FROM THE CURRENT LAW. There doesn't need to be an entirely new bill, really, just an amendment that is sorely needed at this time. My email is samurai351@yahoo**.*com if anyone cares to send me something about this...but please, I ask you, don't SPAM me, ok?

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

tmwags62 — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:28:32 GMT

Yes, Peppie, I would love to talk with you. My e-mail is tmwturtles@yahoo**.*com. I'm very concerned about why this is not going anywhere.

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

tmwags62 — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:26:02 GMT

I would love to talk to you about this bill. Why is it at a standstill????

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

yellis01 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:06:11 GMT

Hello everyone. I would really like to keep in touch with those of you who are serious about making something happen. I don't know how long they will keep this site up seeing how the legislation session is passed for this bill, but I still want to stay in contact with those of you who expressed an interest in doing something more. Please send me your email addresses at ysellis01@gmail**.*com

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

peppie — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:26:49 GMT

do you have a email add so we can keep intouch with one another i have ur back all the way on this one

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

peppie — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:51:22 GMT

please give me a call i dont mine giving my num to anyone that would like to help pass this bill 734 9727284

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

yellis01 — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:29:30 GMT

During my grad career at U of M, I have applied quite a few of our assignments to do real things to advocate for this bill. During this fall semester, I have to take 2 grant writing classes, and an Econ class that I will write my thesis substitution for which will focus on Michigan's economy and how it relates to the ex-offender. Previously, I designed two research designs that focuses on answering questions about the offender demographic make-up, basically, I was thinking if we could prove what constitutes a felon and how broad that term is, maybe our legislators would become more aggressive with the handling of this bill. There are a lot of questions that I have that need answering. I know that there are over 300,000 people that have criminal records in Michigan but only an average of 3,000 actually apply for expunction. What I don't know is how many of the 3,000 get approved? The courts have not been helpful, I know somewhere someone has the answer but getting to the right person to access it has not happened yet. I don't know how many more could benefit from expunging their record as the law stands right now, or how many need this law to pass. Are folks not applying because they don't know that they can or are they just not eligibile? How many people need more aggressive bills that allow for multiple felonies resulting from one situation? These are the main questions I need answering and I am thinking a research study would help to get the data needed. As for these grant classes, we have to develop something tangible not just an assignment, so I was thinking of writing a research grant and possibly one for a campaign to spread awareness about this legislation. Let's get real, after November it's dead. It's up to us to be ready next session when it gets re-introduced so that we can get it passed. I am trying to get all my ducks lined up and would appreciate any help or suggestions that any of you may have with going forward in a campaign that would advocate for this bill or I should say the next one they will introduce after this one fails. Keep in mind that the SB 0159 bill that passed, I found out around spring time that this passed because it directly affected someone important son ( I don't remember if it was a senator or representative). They pushed this bill through in like 5 months! 5 months of it being introduced but added the age requirement so it would not have any opposition, not that it would seeing how it was designed to pass for the sake of this young man. I guess it really comes down to who you know! Well I don't know anyone who can do that for me, and I can only assume none of you do either or else it would have happened already so I am saying to you all that the only way to get it done is to do it ourselves.

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

peppie — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:19:33 GMT

please email me @ gcshowcase69@gmail**.*com im willing to do what ever i takes to pass this bill

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

peppie — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 08:49:39 GMT

What can we do to help pass this house bill 4106

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

axb7092 — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 00:01:57 GMT

Oh and if Michigan is so cashed strapped then after 5 years no criminal activity and a degree or any type of certification that you received in order to better yourself then I would be more than happy to pay what ever they wish to erase my non violent and victim less crimes. I and a million others would as well and you can receive your $ cause one way or another its what its all about Unfortunately. AMEN

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

axb7092 — Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:51:53 GMT

I honestly would pay $ to have mine removed, and I know there are more individuals who would do the same. I really hope something is done and soon. To be convicted and only receive probation and as soon as I was done paying my fines I was released. I graduated and still have difficult finding a job 7 years later. I had to move from Michigan just to try to find something a place that would give me somewhat of a chance. I have no problem being punished for my drug crime, it was a bad stretch and I still cant believe it happened to me. Only because I have a prior DUI makes this impossible to remove, I believe 7 years of not being able to put an apartment in my name, getting rejected by the corporate world, embarrassing myself and family and getting stripped of certain rights is punishment enough. I have held my head high for so long but time is slowly making me realize the magnitude of my future. I have read this bill numerous times and I think it would be a perfect fit to a lot of individuals in my same situation. Its a vicious cycle that repeats itself in a negative manner and if the word REHABILITATION is truly what we are after then, the ending of this cycle would be just that.

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

bill35 — Thu, 20 Sep 2012 04:27:29 GMT

I think the revisions that they offer here is so good. I hope this is being pushed so much. The changes will benefit so many. Great job idea to push. credit card BVI

Re: 2011 House Bill 4106 (Revise criminal record expungement rules )

Muirenn — Wed, 09 May 2012 13:44:26 GMT

The House and the Senate recently passed companion bills that would enable more convicted criminals to get their records sealed through the process knows as expungement. Expungement allows convicted criminals to legally state that they have never been convicted of a crime.