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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Civil Law</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/18.aspx</link><description>Torts, Family Law</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 (Debug Build: 30417.1769)</generator><item><title>Re: 2009 House Bill 4061 (Allow child support termination if DNA shows non-paternity )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275924.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:10:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:275924</guid><dc:creator>polarbear</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275924.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=275924</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Under sec, (3) A to E reason the court shall not grant a motion under subsection (1).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WOW&amp;nbsp; A to E alot of jump rope&amp;#39;n to do to get to equal rights. Court Judge,Lawyers and family services need to go back and read ,follow laws of Paternity Act-1956 Pa 205 Mcl 722.711 to 722-730. READ it again,ITS THE LAW.&amp;nbsp; Slavery is unlawful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;722.714 and 722.716&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; a LAW of BLOOD TEST RIGHTS THAT MUST BE FOLLOWED BY COURTS&amp;lt; JUDGES&amp;lt;FIA AGENCYS.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In that order of the paternity act.&amp;nbsp; states that &amp;quot;unless it is proven that the child is NOT the issue/subject of th marriage. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The 722.717 is the problem-this gives courts  to default judgement,trick or treat clause,without dna test rights.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This 722.717 needs to have a ADD-on, like= A default Judgement shall NOT be sent to alleged father unless a DNA TEST IS DONE.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If a default order to pay child support is ordered, father pays child support,a DNA test must be done,once a alleged father is found.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Father/ husband who is NOT the BIOlogical father=child support payments will be voided, and a new alleged father should be named.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SLAVERY= one owned and forced into service. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If a non-biological man/husband works/pays for another mans child, he then becomes a slave.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 House Bill 4061 (Allow child support termination if DNA shows non-paternity )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272713.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:21:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:272713</guid><dc:creator>silence dogood</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272713.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=272713</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;another case of government by fraud and falsity.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 House Bill 4061 (Allow child support termination if DNA shows non-paternity )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272711.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:06:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:272711</guid><dc:creator>dougmrich</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272711.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=272711</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small;"&gt;This has absolutely nothing to do with ideology, this is common sense. Being a paternity fraud victim myself, I believe I have herd about every opinion and solution in the book.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small;"&gt;I was forced to pay the biological father child support for his own child, theres simply no justification for this. I was denied any form of visitation while ordered to pay support; there was no best interest of the child involved.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small;"&gt;People say, you should not have had to pay. That would be a correct analogy, however the judge by personal opinion thought I should. The way the laws are drafted, I was denied any form of legal grounds to defend my rights or the best interest of the child.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small;"&gt;This is all about Federal Funding Period; people must realize we are not talking about increasing tax on cigarettes for the general fund; we are talking about the best interest of family heritage for generations to follow.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 House Bill 4061 (Allow child support termination if DNA shows non-paternity )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272703.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:44:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:272703</guid><dc:creator>silence dogood</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272703.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=272703</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;it&amp;#39;s our ideology, all of us right of center. but it&amp;#39;s also my opinion. i think that my ideology is much better applied to this situation than yours would be. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 House Bill 4061 (Allow child support termination if DNA shows non-paternity )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272702.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:55:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:272702</guid><dc:creator>jmangan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272702.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=272702</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Always has to come back to your ideology, doesn&amp;#39;t it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 House Bill 4061 (Allow child support termination if DNA shows non-paternity )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272537.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:42:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:272537</guid><dc:creator>silence dogood</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272537.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=272537</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;but yet our state seems to condone fraud and falsity as a means of government. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 House Bill 4061 (Allow child support termination if DNA shows non-paternity )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272536.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:38:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:272536</guid><dc:creator>dougmrich</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272536.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=272536</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small;"&gt;A serious thought to consider, all contracts either written or verbal are invalid and void when enacted by the means of fraudulent terms including (perjury), and this would include marriage and a court order.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-32-1131"&gt;http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-32-1131&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 House Bill 4061 (Allow child support termination if DNA shows non-paternity )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272523.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:57:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:272523</guid><dc:creator>uber-liberal</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272523.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=272523</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;money earned by fraud is the profit of a crime. fraud is illegal per se. prosecute it to the fullest extent of the law.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 House Bill 4061 (Allow child support termination if DNA shows non-paternity )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272522.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:50:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:272522</guid><dc:creator>dougmrich</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272522.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=272522</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small;"&gt;Lets observe this from another end of the spectrum, A father, biological or not can be charged with felony non payment and child abandonment and sentenced to jail or prison for up to four years, and this happens on a daily basis.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:small;"&gt;The mothers in PATERNITY FRAUD Cases, such as mine should immediately charged with perjury and unjust enrichment by the means of extrotion. They should also be ordered to repay all monies plus interest received by the Fraud and enforced by the courts until the balance is paid in full. Let this mother sell their cars and homes; give up any retirement they may have accumulated and see what accountability really means.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is Justice.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 House Bill 4061 (Allow child support termination if DNA shows non-paternity )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272520.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:20:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:272520</guid><dc:creator>polarbear</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272520.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=272520</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;This house bill has been going on and on, slavery its unlawful to force a man/or husband to child support for a child NOT his.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If ya notice this bill has tricky wording,like -&amp;quot;Relief from child support with dna, will be denied,if a man knew child was Not his 6months before or after DNA test.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; How about a add rule &amp;quot;Women/ who knew a Man/husband is NOT a father of child before or after 6month shall be denied child support payments unless a DNA test is given,or the REAL father is found&amp;quot;&amp;quot;&amp;quot;&amp;quot;&amp;quot;&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SLAVERY IS UNLAWFUL-slavery is when a person works for another persons duty. DNA test , freedom, if a women can get a man to pay after 6 years of waiting hunting, then a innocent husband should be relief of &amp;quot;slavery&amp;quot; after 6 years.&amp;nbsp; Equal justice rights.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 House Bill 4061 (Allow child support termination if DNA shows non-paternity )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/271117.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:11:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:271117</guid><dc:creator>crazycajun</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/271117.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=271117</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;this bill should MANDATE termination of child support, with a full refund if the d.n.a. test shows that there is no paternity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;to do any less is THEFT.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 House Bill 4061 (Allow child support termination if DNA shows non-paternity )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/270925.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:58:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:270925</guid><dc:creator>crazycajun</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/270925.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=270925</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;a d.n.a. test should be the first order of business in a paternity dispute. it helps clear up who is lying to whom. if the NAMED father is not the ACTUAL father, that person should be sent on his merry way, and the woman who LIED TO THE COURT should be fined and imprisoned.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;to do anything else is unethical, dishonest, and SHOULD BE ILLEGAL.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 House Bill 4061 (Allow child support termination if DNA shows non-paternity )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/270922.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:47:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:270922</guid><dc:creator>dougmrich</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/270922.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=270922</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;House bill #4061 must pass, its time to end the incarceration of innocent men by the means of indentured servitude.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;For more details of how important, the passage of this bill really is please visit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lawliars.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;www.lawliars.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>2009 House Bill 4061 (Allow child support termination if DNA shows non-paternity )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/270921.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2001 05:00:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:270921</guid><dc:creator>admin</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/270921.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=18&amp;PostID=270921</wfw:commentRss><description>Introduced in the House on January 22, 2009&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href='http://www.michiganvotes.org/2009-HB-4061'&gt;Click here to view bill details.&lt;/a&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>