Transportation and Driving

Re: 2009 House Bill 4252 (Authorize congestion lane tolls/HOV restrictions )

crazycajun — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:36:24 GMT

you DO have that right... unless this bill passes.

then you WON'T have that right.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4252 (Authorize congestion lane tolls/HOV restrictions )

Adamsexpress — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:18:36 GMT

To crazycajun,

Thank you. Theft of this type could be called extortion? Like gangsters taking "protection" money from you because you live or work in the area they took over? Keep your powder dry.

To jmangan,

You are exactly right. I paid more attention to punctuation. I am embarrassed for not appearing more professional.

To SaneMichigander,

It grinds my shorts to pay for a toll road (or a lumper). These are OUR public roadways built by OUR tax dollars that fees are raised and roads leased or bought by other countries or businesses. Tolls raise cost per mile, affecting the end user cost of all products. Road conditions in Ohio are ok, but stretches of Pensylvania and Illinois tolls are lousy. Merging, stop and go traffic at cash boxes waste time, fuel and increase collision potential.

Also, the large amount on fuel tax revenue pays for all lanes, not just restricted lanes. I believe we have the right to use all lanes depending on traffic speed or conditions.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4252 (Authorize congestion lane tolls/HOV restrictions )

SaneMichigander — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:13:19 GMT

As a rule, I find that driving toll roads like the Ohio Turnpike, Pennsylvania Turnpike, New York State Thruway and Massachusetts Turnpike to be a good experience. The roadways usually are in better repair than non-toll roads, and the traffic flow seems better regulated.

Toll roads may be a sound “user pay” solution to the highway congestion, condition and regulation dilemma Michigan faces. But HB 4252 is not the right proposal.

HB 4252 offers a too complicated, confusing solution that probably would create rather than resolve conflict. It would do little or nothing in the long run to improve Michigan highway congestion and condition.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4252 (Authorize congestion lane tolls/HOV restrictions )

jmangan — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:43:21 GMT

I think the truck driver means faster vehicles to the left.

Worries me when truck drivers get their lefts and rights confused.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4252 (Authorize congestion lane tolls/HOV restrictions )

crazycajun — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:46:05 GMT

there is something wrong with the state charging tolls on a public (tax paid) road. it's called theft.

Re: 2009 House Bill 4252 (Authorize congestion lane tolls/HOV restrictions )

Adamsexpress — Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:48:32 GMT

NO TOLL ROADS! I am a truck owner-operator. There is something fundamentally wrong with tolls, period. Take down all lane restriction signs and replace them with signs stating, "Slower vehicles to the right, faster vehicles to the right." That is good common sense.

2009 House Bill 4252 (Authorize congestion lane tolls/HOV restrictions )

admin — Mon, 01 Jan 2001 05:00:00 GMT

Introduced in the House on February 11, 2009

Click here to view bill details.