General Government

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

gypsy — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:20:35 GMT

Prove both of those statements.

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

bugman — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:07:37 GMT

yes, there are many less unemployed, but many more homeless. curing neither is the role of government.

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

gypsy — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:03:10 GMT

Please. There are many more people now than during the great depression.

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

bugman — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:42:14 GMT

those who choose to recieve government checks. before we gave out welfare, homelessness was much lower. welfare has not eliminated, or even reduced homelessness, it has, apparently, increased it. there are many more homeless now than during the 'great depression'.

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

gypsy — Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:36:32 GMT

In order for this government to work, we can't have people starving and homeless. To say their only goal is monetary gain is fantasy. Who would choose to be hungry and homeless?

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

bugman — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:42:50 GMT

no, we should not be giving them a part of our tax money. once you give a portion of the citizenry a slice of the treasury, they will always vote to keep getting that slice of the treasury. their goal is monetary gain, not justice. the united states government is not a charity. charity is the work of the church. there is, according to some, to be a separation of church and state. this particular function of government of granting a slice of the treasury to a 'chosen few' should stop immediately.

no citizen has a franchise on our tax money.

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

gypsy — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:25:05 GMT

Including those who are receiving government aid, yes. Would you have us disenfranchise them?

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

bugman — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:59:54 GMT

including those who will not give up their government checks, no matter what?

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

gypsy — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:57:54 GMT

This state includes all of it's citizens, and agreeing that budget cuts must be made, we need to listen to everyone.

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

bugman — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:30:43 GMT

i prefer my apples crisp and tart. and bees do give up their honey without a fuss. but it pays to have adequate protection in case your honey gathering technique is faulty. that is called being prepared. this state is not prepared to make the kinds of budget cuts that will be required without incurring the ire of the bunch of people who are standing by with their hands out.

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

gypsy — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:44:09 GMT

I would prefer that all apples be red and round, and bees give up their honey without a fuss. But alas, that is not the case.

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

bugman — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:39:32 GMT

i would prefer that no bad law gets passed. writing bad law for the sake of 'looking busy' is not why the people elected our representatives.

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

gypsy — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:35:33 GMT

Have you ever considered that it might be a good thing that not all laws that are proposed are passed? Personally, I like the fact that only one law passed out of a thousand, if that is the case.

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

bugman — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:24:29 GMT

there have been over a thousand 'bad laws' written so far in this session alone, as evidenced by the fact that only one passed. do you hire representatives to write bad law? i certainly don't.

Re: do less. tax less. spend less.

gypsy — Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:16:40 GMT

No legislator, bad law, no citizen, small group.