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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Government </title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/16.aspx</link><description>Government Employees, Election Law, Constitution, Transparency, Branches</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 (Debug Build: 30417.1769)</generator><item><title>it happened because</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242075.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 11:59:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242075</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242075.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242075</wfw:commentRss><description>the DUMBOCRATS LET IT HAPPEN.

you guys thougt "oh,gee... let's MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!" and voted FOR these changes, or else they NEVER WOULD HAVE PASSED. (democrat control of congress and all that...)

now, you've shot yourself in the foot, and are trying to blame the other party for it. where was this indignation during the election? where was this indignation BEFORE the results were rejected in TWO states and the voter's rights were NULLIFIED?

the truth is, as long as it got SHRILLARY elected, you were ALL FOR IT.</description></item><item><title>Re: yeah</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242074.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 11:48:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242074</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242074.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242074</wfw:commentRss><description>statements like you make are the reason that we need a poll test. You try to blame the republicans for the mess your beloved commies have made of the dem primary. Those super delegates were created for the situation where the dems have pandered to idiots for so long that they cannot be allowed to pick a candidate.
We are now to that point.</description></item><item><title>What Are You Afraid Of?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242073.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 11:45:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242073</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242073.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242073</wfw:commentRss><description>"yet some states make it mandatory to show your state id to vote"

This will make it harder for the dems/libs/socialists to get elected by the deceased bloc of voters. It will also stop that wonderful voting bloc that I like to call"get out the stupid vote" where the socialists drive a bus into the ghetto and give away wine for votes. You people disgust me. Only property owners should be allowed to vote. There was a good reason for it 200 and some odd years ago and there is a good reason for it today.</description></item><item><title>Heads Up!</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242072.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:50:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242072</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242072.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242072</wfw:commentRss><description>Does anyone else think this type of legislation is only meant to alienate voters even more?  The Constitution says no tax to vote, yet some states make it mandatory to show your state id to vote.  You have to pay for that id.  Does that make it "a tax"?  All these things seem to me so central to our democracy that it's either that the Repugs under GW have made Americans question their right to exist or just a ploy to make Americans so mad they won't pay attention to GW stealing the crumbs from the empty American cookie jar before he leaves the office.  I understand him, I've done the same thing before....</description></item><item><title>Yeah!</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242071.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:44:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242071</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242071.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242071</wfw:commentRss><description>If we've all noticed by now, in both Florida and in the great state of MI, similar bills were introduced and passed, by Repugs.  Both bills ultimately only affected the candidacies of Democratic party candidates.  Will anyone bring this notion up in the news media, or at least ask someone officially why this situation happened like it did?</description></item><item><title>you have a problem with</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242078.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 12:35:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242078</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242078.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242078</wfw:commentRss><description>this NOW????

why not when it was enacted several months ago?

oh, yeah... that's right....


your candidate was WINNING back then.</description></item><item><title>Yep that sure worked!</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242077.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 12:25:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242077</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242077.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242077</wfw:commentRss><description>Once again the average person can thank the republicans for not getting a say in our presidential election.  WAY TO GO REPUGs!</description></item><item><title>because the dumbocrats</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242070.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 21:18:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242070</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242070.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242070</wfw:commentRss><description>allowed it to happen.

they didn't 'reach across the isle' and convince anyone why it shouldn't happen.

you don't hear the republican committee saying anything about it, do you? no.

just the democrats, and that's only because the results didn't help shrillary win. i notice they weren't too concerned with it till the d.n.c. rejected the results.</description></item><item><title>Repugs force change in primary</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242069.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 17:48:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242069</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242069.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242069</wfw:commentRss><description>Look again at the vote.  All Repugs voted to change the date, all Democrats voted against it.  Without the Repugs pushing this, it would not have happened.  Why isn't this brought up whenever the change is discussed in the media?</description></item><item><title>Laughing Hard.</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242068.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:38:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242068</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242068.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242068</wfw:commentRss><description>So who is crying over the spilled milk now? I've got to say that the only people hurt are the hard working taxpayers in this state. I think that those that voted in favore of this need to be held accountable. With all of the time, effort and money that was spent to get this passed, you now need to explain the total cost of this to us (taxpayers). I think I'd be madder if I knew the exact cost of this mess.

If a total recall of the Michigan Legaslature was something that I could get to gain momentum, I'd work on it.

In closing, I hope that DeVos runs again. Maybe now people will listen.</description></item><item><title>What A Genius!</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242076.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:20:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242076</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242076.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242076</wfw:commentRss><description>I guess the state of Michigan is getting the extra attention McManus wanted for us now!</description></item><item><title>What A Genius!</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242081.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:18:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242081</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242081.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242081</wfw:commentRss><description>I guess the state of Michigan is getting the extra attention McManus wanted for us now!</description></item><item><title>Lori, NJ</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242066.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 06:21:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242066</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242066.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242066</wfw:commentRss><description>Those are great ideas!</description></item><item><title>I agree.</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242051.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:40:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242051</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242051.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242051</wfw:commentRss><description>From what I hear, Michigan used to have caucuses rather than primaries. Well, guess who funds the primaries everyone- WE DO! Apparently, primaries can cost 10,000,000 lovely tax dollars. Whereas, caucuses are run by the parties, without our hard earned dollars. 

As we can see, these primaries sure will vamp up the Michigan economy by CUTTING INTO OUR FUNDS! 

Thank you, Michigan government, for focusing on a real issue THAT NO ACTUAL CITIZEN COULD GIVE A SHIT ABOUT! 

And, since no media has decided to do in depth analysis of why the primary date has changed and its effect on taxpayers, ALL CITIZENS ARE KEPT IN THE DARK! Not sketchy one bit...

Wow, politics truly is a bunch of crap.</description></item><item><title>pick a party, or pick your nose</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242050.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:32:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:242050</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/242050.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=242050</wfw:commentRss><description>The fact that you affiliate yourself with republicans, democrats, libertarians, or anarchists. should not matter. An American citizen should be able to pick whatever candidate from whatever party  that bests reflects his or her views. THE TWO PARTY SYSTEM is fatally flawed, and he major distinctions between them is hazy and getting worse. if i am registered as an independent what is wrong with me endorsing a republican? on the same note if i am registered as a republican and none of the candidates speak to me in a voice i agree with, why should i not have a chance to support a candidate that does.
 The sooner that us as Michiganders throw down our partisan affiliations and support ideals that we agree with instead of picking a candidate who we think has a chance of winning, the better the result we will have for our government.
 When it comes down to it the people who really have a voice in politics are the lobbyists not the citizens, and soon as we can change the face of our politicians to turn away from the money and to look their constituents in the eye we will be truly have a government that is  of the people, for the people, and by the people. The only way this can be achieved is to throw away your party affiliations and vote with your hear and mind not with the party that is listed on your voter registration card.

CFick
Detroit, MI</description></item></channel></rss>