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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Government </title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/16.aspx</link><description>Government Employees, Election Law, Constitution, Transparency, Branches</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 (Debug Build: 30417.1769)</generator><item><title>Re: I Oppose This Legislation . . .</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/288204.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:50:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:288204</guid><dc:creator>TaterSalad</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/288204.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=288204</wfw:commentRss><description>gypsy is your typical &amp;quot;under the bed&amp;quot; liberal who thinks that conservatives are &amp;quot;over the top&amp;quot; on just about everything.  

Carrying a CCW has restrictions and should be followed but every person in the United States who is eligible to carry should be allowed to protect themselves from harm &amp;quot;at all times&amp;quot;!

Listening to Obama/Biden/Clinton on U.N. gun controls and then trying to expand them to the U.S., coupled with Obama/Holder&amp;#39;s Fast &amp;amp; Furious Operations that got Mexicans and U.S. border agents killed inorder to get public opinion to suspend our 2nd. Amendment rights is sickening.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I Oppose This Legislation . . .</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/288188.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 09:15:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:288188</guid><dc:creator>Glock27</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/288188.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=288188</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Yes I am if you come into my home without my consent, if you brake&amp;nbsp; into my home, if you accost me on the street or I see you trying to harm someone on the street you are damned right you are a criminal.&amp;nbsp; Anyone that conducts themselves in this manner needs to be and must be met with force on force.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s the only way citizens are going to keep you thugs under control.&amp;nbsp; As long as you fear me that is very excellent.&amp;nbsp; I refuse to be your victim.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2005 House Bill 5143 (Repeal “duty to retreat” in self defense )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/288185.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2012 00:59:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:288185</guid><dc:creator>victor88</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/288185.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=288185</wfw:commentRss><description>I see this being such a great bill here. Its all about being able to protect yourself with force. I see this needing to be pushed here. The world is getting crazy and we have protest ourselves. &lt;a style="visibility:hidden;"&gt;Richmond Movers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: what's that?!?!?!?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/283509.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 11:12:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:283509</guid><dc:creator>khushi625</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/283509.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=283509</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;what you are talking about ?.&lt;a title="Directory Avatar" href="http://www.diravatar.com/"&gt;.&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I want to advocate for any new self defense act changes, that you guys might introduce. Is this a constant issue that Rep. Rick Jones introduces?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is a serious problem with police agencies not investigating and blow off&amp;nbsp;citizens complaints&amp;nbsp;of violence.&amp;nbsp; The People should change&lt;strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/strong&gt;the criminal and civil immunity that blankets&amp;nbsp;police agencies, and&amp;nbsp;officers., so&amp;nbsp;when they conduct poor, sloppy,&amp;nbsp;or otherwise investigates complaints&amp;nbsp;under performance to there capabilities and standards.&amp;nbsp;If its&amp;nbsp;a foreseeable factor that future violence is&amp;nbsp;more likely to happen then less likely,&amp;nbsp;they should be required to diligently investigate and put in force any action necessary that will prohibit&amp;nbsp;and prevent&amp;nbsp;serious harm,&amp;nbsp;deaths, assaults, harrasments so-on.&amp;nbsp; If a cop fails to do there job, and someones hurt over it, then damages&amp;nbsp;done should correlate to the officers punishiment. A fine for a bruise.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;up to 90 days if somesones seriously hurt, and up to 10 years if someone dies, as a result of there inadequate and underperformanced investigation. They get paid tax money, &amp;quot;our money&amp;quot; to protect us. Thats there job. So when they dont protect us, they basically are stealing that money.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;anyone point me in the right direction? please&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; United States Concealed Carry Association has a web site you can connect to to get insurance that covers retainer fees and up to $25,000 in lawyer costs, but its expensive.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2005 House Bill 5143 (Repeal “duty to retreat” in self defense )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/279874.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:52:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:279874</guid><dc:creator>john1980</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/279874.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=279874</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Amendment offered by Rep. Rick Jones (R) on April 25, 2006, to remove provision that a person who breaks and enters into a dwelling or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to committ an unlawful or violent act. The bill instead establishes a rebuttable presumption that this is the case. The amendment &lt;span class="passed"&gt;passed&lt;/span&gt; by voice vote in the House on April 25, 2006. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica;font-size:13px;"&gt;The vote was 90 in favor, 16 opposed and 1 not voting&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;A bill to clarify the rights and duties of self-defense and &amp;nbsp;the defense of others; to provide for criminal and civil immunity &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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