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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>General Government </title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/16.aspx</link><description>Government Employees, Election Law, Constitution, Transparency, Branches</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 (Debug Build: 30417.1769)</generator><item><title>Re: my vote</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275953.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:54:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:275953</guid><dc:creator>Rabidog</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275953.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=275953</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;I want this bill passed also, but offering to vote for Jen&lt;img src="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/emoticons/emotion-52.gif" alt="Wilted Flower" /&gt; is a bust - she&amp;#39;s term-limited out!&amp;nbsp; Pete&lt;img src="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/emoticons/emotion-21.gif" alt="Yes" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/emoticons/emotion-21.gif" alt="Yes" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/emoticons/emotion-48.gif" alt="Right Hug" /&gt; will be our next governor if we get rallied behind him!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2005 House Bill 4505 (Repeal motorcycle helmet mandate )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272429.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:11:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:272429</guid><dc:creator>uber-liberal</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272429.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=272429</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;speaking of old arguements, we love the old &amp;quot;you&amp;#39;re too stupid to exist without this law to protect you&amp;quot; ploy. perhaps you believe that you are too stupid to exist without this, but i am not. please do not take my rights away simply because you do not trust me. i don&amp;#39;t trust you, but i don&amp;#39;t take your rights away. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Helmet</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272427.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:07:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:272427</guid><dc:creator>uber-liberal</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272427.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=272427</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;yes, as a matter of fact, we do. but you don&amp;#39;t want to know what they are, you just revel in taking rights away from the citizens. it&amp;#39;s a good thing that no one tries to take your rights away.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Helmet</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272426.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:17:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:272426</guid><dc:creator>albaby</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272426.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=272426</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/Themes/leanandgreen/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous Citizen:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Your friend would have probably died WITH a helmet, or at least been a quadriplegic after the added 4 pound weight of an approved helmet broke his neck.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yawnnnnnn. Old argument. Got numbers to prove your point?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Wear a helmet</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272425.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:15:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:272425</guid><dc:creator>albaby</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/272425.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=272425</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/Themes/leanandgreen/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;mifarmer:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree with you but it should be my right to wear or now wear a helmet and the same with a seat belt.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Right, and the insurance companies and medical facilities should have the right to refuse to pay for or treat any injuries that could have been prevented by wearing a helmet or seat belt. The tax payers should not be held responsible for your medical costs or raising and educating your children. If you don&amp;#39;t care enough about them or yourself, why should we pick up your reponsibilities? You want freedom-so do we.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2005 House Bill 4505 (Repeal motorcycle helmet mandate )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/271878.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:48:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:271878</guid><dc:creator>jimbow49009</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/271878.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=271878</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Helmets are the only source of protection for the operator of a motorcycle. Why would we want the State to repeal such legislation. The injuries from motorcycle involved accidents are already serious enough.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Driving is a &lt;span style="font-size:small;font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;privilege&lt;/span&gt;..not a right. Legislation is imposed because many people do not have the capability to use common sense when making decisions.&amp;nbsp; Seat belts and helmets do save lives.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Wear a helmet</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/269396.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 21:12:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:269396</guid><dc:creator>mifarmer</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/269396.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=269396</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree with you but it should be my right to wear or now wear a helmet and the same with a seat belt.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Helmet Law</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/269395.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:02:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:269395</guid><dc:creator>mifarmer</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/269395.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=269395</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Why dont we bikers form a group to get a&amp;nbsp;law&amp;nbsp;on the ballot that the people vote on. Lets make it manditory that every person in or on a motorized vehicle must dress as good or better then a motorcycle rider in the state of Michigan. This includes anyone passing through the state.&amp;nbsp; When the law fails we sue the state on discrimination.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>what</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/220677.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:33:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:220677</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/220677.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=220677</wfw:commentRss><description>makes it the government's responsibility to pay my bills?

why do you keep insisting that when someone is seriously injured that they automatically become WARDS OF THE STATE?"</description></item><item><title>riding a horse is a very dangerous thing to</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/220676.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:30:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:220676</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/220676.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=220676</wfw:commentRss><description>do. before cars were invented, thousands died, and thousands more were maimed and injured in "Horse incidents".

also, for thousands of year, governments wisely let the decision of whether or not to walk to work up to the person doing the walking.

it's not the government's job to save your life, as much as you may want it to be.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY-SMALLER GOVERNMENT.</description></item><item><title>Immediate Death May Not Be The Economic Issue</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/220675.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:19:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:220675</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/220675.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=220675</wfw:commentRss><description>“I don't want other people penalized for my mistakes though either. If I die without a helmet and if a helmet could have saved my life then void my insurance for all I care. Just don't take away my freedom.”

That’s good of you.  

But please be aware that it is not your immediate demise that winds up costing everybody else a ton of money.  What costs is your lingering on in a severely handicapped or vegetative state.  Personally, I’m left to wonder if helmets actually do save lives, but in a way that ends up being very costly.  Perhaps this is a point that should be looked at and debated.</description></item><item><title>Helmet Law</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/220674.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:03:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:220674</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/220674.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=220674</wfw:commentRss><description>I always thought what made America the greatest country in the world was the freedom of choice.  With that said, laws forcing us to wear seatbelts or a helmet feels wrong.  We should be allowed to chose how we live our lives.  

I don't want other people penalized for my mistakes though either.  If I die without a helmet and if a helmet could have saved my life then void my insurance for all I care.  Just don't take away  my freedom.</description></item><item><title>why should anyone's</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/222378.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:05:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:222378</guid><dc:creator>crazycajun</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/222378.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=222378</wfw:commentRss><description>choice effect your insurance costs?

it's YOU the company is insuring, it's YOU the company is billing, no one else's actions should effect that.

if the insurance company cannot 'afford' to insure someone, they need to get out of the insurance business. the insurance company is supposed to KNOW what the risks are, and their business is to insure that no one else (other than them and the insured) will be financially effected.

if they cannot make money doing that, they need to be inanother business.</description></item><item><title>Helmet Laws</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/222346.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:35:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:222346</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/222346.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=222346</wfw:commentRss><description>Exellent Point And True!</description></item><item><title>To Tax guy</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/222339.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:33:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:222339</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/222339.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=16&amp;PostID=222339</wfw:commentRss><description>You sound like a bleeding heart left coast liberal loudmouth loser!</description></item></channel></rss>