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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Social and Civil Liberty Issues </title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/13.aspx</link><description>Abortion, Gambling, Race, Gender, Guns, Drugs, Religion, Other</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 (Debug Build: 30417.1769)</generator><item><title>Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1441 (Allow Spartan Stores (but not competitors) to hold wine tastings )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278854.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 12:01:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:278854</guid><dc:creator>z1queenie</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278854.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=278854</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;@bill1978:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here is the wording, the first line of the bill. Notice the words in parentheses. (Bolding is mine). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Introduced by Sen. Mark Jansen (R) on July 28, 2010, to allow the Spartan Stores grocery chain (&lt;strong&gt;but not other grocery chains like Meijer, Kroger, etc.)&lt;/strong&gt; to hold wine tastings in its stores. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1441 (Allow Spartan Stores (but not competitors) to hold wine tastings )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278853.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 11:58:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:278853</guid><dc:creator>z1queenie</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278853.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=278853</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;This is one of the most ridiculous bills to ever come forward. We have more pressing issues to worry about other than whether Spartan Stores but not Meijer&amp;#39;s can have wine tastings. This is a direct carve out that benefits ONE grocery business. What makes Spartan Stores better than Meijer&amp;#39;s. Why can&amp;#39;t the competitor have wine tastings? What is good for one should be good for all. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why don&amp;#39;t we worry about funding education? Worry about balancing the state budget. Truly balance it but not on the backs of the taxpayers or the children in our public schools, but by&amp;nbsp;cutting taxes. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is another bad idea in a long string of bad ideas that comes out of Lansing and a pertinent point as to why we need a part-time legislature with part-time benefits. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1441 (Allow Spartan Stores (but not competitors) to hold wine tastings )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278743.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:40:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:278743</guid><dc:creator>ejmcandrew</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278743.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=278743</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;I feel the real issue
here is why we are allowing any grocery store to hold wine tasting events&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Our children are already bombarded enough by
alcohol advertisements and displays.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The
Center on Alcohol Marking &amp;amp; Youth reports &lt;i&gt;&amp;ldquo;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The average age at which young people, ages 12 to 17, begin
to drink is 13 years old.&amp;rdquo;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Another study
reported by the Office of Juvenile Justice &amp;amp; Delinquency Prevention states:&lt;i&gt;&amp;ldquo;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span&gt;Studies on the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;i&gt;effects
of advertising on adults do not show a strong connection between exposure to
advertising and overall consumption. However, &lt;/i&gt;survey &lt;i&gt;studies on alcohol
advertising and young people consistently indicate that children and adolescents,
who are exposed to alcohol advertisements have more favorable attitudes toward
drinking, are more likely to be underage drinkers, and intend to drink more
when &lt;/i&gt;they &lt;i&gt;are adults.&amp;rdquo;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;The number one
killer of today&amp;rsquo;s adolescents is alcohol and alcohol related accidents.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;Allowing grocery stores whose most frequent patrons are
parents with young children, to do wine tasting events&lt;/span&gt; only adds yet
another dimension to the systematic entrapment of young children. &lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1441 (Allow Spartan Stores (but not competitors) to hold wine tastings )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278723.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:43:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:278723</guid><dc:creator>FreeSpeaker</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278723.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=278723</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;The very specific, detailed description of what chain store(s) would be eligible to sponsor in-store wine tastings is a dead giveaway that this proposed legislation is intended to favor some particular company over all others.&amp;nbsp; That is patently corrupt.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1441 (Allow Spartan Stores (but not competitors) to hold wine tastings )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278722.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 06:52:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:278722</guid><dc:creator>bill1978</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278722.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=278722</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Not that I don&amp;#39;t believe the interpretation, but please explain to me where in the bill it discriminates against Meijer, etc and not Spartan?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1441 (Allow Spartan Stores (but not competitors) to hold wine tastings )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278721.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 01:12:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:278721</guid><dc:creator>bapossum</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278721.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=278721</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Obviously, Spartan Stores made the largest contribution to Sen. Mark Jansen&amp;#39;s (R) war chest.&amp;nbsp; C&amp;#39;mon, Meijer and Kroger, ante up!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1441 (Allow Spartan Stores (but not competitors) to hold wine tastings )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278719.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 19:20:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:278719</guid><dc:creator>truckingal</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278719.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=278719</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;You people really arent fit to legislate! Stop discriminating against some businesses in favor of others! All-or none!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1441 (Allow Spartan Stores (but not competitors) to hold wine tastings )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278713.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:48:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:278713</guid><dc:creator>Brian Wood</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278713.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=278713</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;What kind of idiot would introduce a bill like this? Does he actually think it would pass, being blatant discrimination against other stores? This is the kind of state legislature we should all be &lt;i&gt;proud &lt;/i&gt;of!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1441 (Allow Spartan Stores (but not competitors) to hold wine tastings )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278712.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:20:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:278712</guid><dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278712.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=278712</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Nice idea, but why only Spartan Stores? Again why are we trying to cherry pick the winners/losers etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>2010 Senate Bill 1441 (Allow Spartan Stores (but not competitors) to hold wine tastings )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278711.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2001 05:00:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:278711</guid><dc:creator>Votes Admin</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/278711.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=278711</wfw:commentRss><description>Introduced in the Senate on July 28, 2010&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href='http://www.michiganvotes.org/2010-SB-1441'&gt;Click here to view bill details.&lt;/a&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>