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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Social and Civil Liberty Issues </title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/13.aspx</link><description>Abortion, Gambling, Race, Gender, Guns, Drugs, Religion, Other</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 (Debug Build: 30417.1769)</generator><item><title>Re: 2009 Senate Bill 667 (Ban pharmacist “conscientious objector” option )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275698.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:07:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:275698</guid><dc:creator>gypsy</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275698.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=275698</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/Themes/leanandgreen/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;FreeSpeaker:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; Refusal to dispense legal and legally prescribed medications properly should result in revocation of that license.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree with that statement entirely, and support passage of this bill. Pharmacist dispense legally prescriped drugs, not moral judgement.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 Senate Bill 667 (Ban pharmacist “conscientious objector” option )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275686.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:15:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:275686</guid><dc:creator>FreeSpeaker</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275686.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=275686</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;A license to dispense legal medication legally prescribed by doctors is not and should never be a license to impose one&amp;#39;s personal beliefs (religious or other) on pharmacy customers.&amp;nbsp; It should be remembered that only licensed pharmacists who have voluntarily chosen their profession may dispense prescribed medications.&amp;nbsp; Refusal to dispense legal and legally prescribed medications properly should result in revocation of that license.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This bill represents sound public policy even though it stops short of requiring license revocation for refusal to dispense on moral-ethical-religious grounds.&amp;nbsp; (The proposal does make revocation a possibility, though.)&amp;nbsp; Importantly, it leaves wiggle room for pharmacists to privately devise workarounds that allow for individual pharmacists to exercise their individual consciences while ensuring the public is properly served by the filling of all legal prescriptions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 Senate Bill 667 (Ban pharmacist “conscientious objector” option )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275679.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:05:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:275679</guid><dc:creator>changeagent</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275679.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=275679</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/Themes/leanandgreen/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;FreeSpeaker:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;In this case, pharmacists are licensed by the state to dispense medication legally prescribed by doctors.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;So I guess that means a license from the state gives them the right to force you to do their will, regardless of your moral objections.&amp;nbsp; One more reason government licensing sucks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 Senate Bill 667 (Ban pharmacist “conscientious objector” option )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275676.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:41:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:275676</guid><dc:creator>FreeSpeaker</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275676.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=275676</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;This bill should pass.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One&amp;rsquo;s religion, to the extent it affects other people, should be practiced in private.&amp;nbsp; When the practice of one&amp;rsquo;s religion starts to affect the interests of other people, the government rightly should step in and referee.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this case, pharmacists are licensed by the state to dispense medication legally prescribed by doctors.&amp;nbsp; They are not licensed to impose their personal religious belief on others by denying access to legal medication.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2009 Senate Bill 667 (Ban pharmacist “conscientious objector” option )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275652.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:49:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:275652</guid><dc:creator>jmd364</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275652.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=275652</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The &lt;b&gt;First Amendment&lt;/b&gt; to the &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution" title="United States Constitution"&gt;United States Constitution&lt;/a&gt; is the part of the &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights" title="United States Bill of Rights"&gt;United States Bill of Rights&lt;/a&gt; that expressly prohibits the &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/United_States_Congress" title="United States Congress"&gt;United States Congress&lt;/a&gt; from making laws &amp;quot;&lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/Establishment_Clause_of_the_First_Amendment" title="Establishment Clause of the First Amendment"&gt;respecting an establishment of religion&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; or that prohibit the &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/Free_Exercise_Clause_of_the_First_Amendment" title="Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment"&gt;free exercise of religion&lt;/a&gt;, infringe the &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_in_the_United_States" title="Freedom of speech in the United States"&gt;freedom of speech&lt;/a&gt;, infringe the &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_press" title="Freedom of the press"&gt;freedom of the press&lt;/a&gt;, limit the right to &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly" title="Freedom of assembly"&gt;peaceably assemble&lt;/a&gt;, or limit the &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/Right_to_petition_in_the_United_States" title="Right to petition in the United States"&gt;right to petition&lt;/a&gt; the government for a redress of &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/Grievance" title="Grievance"&gt;grievances&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Although the First Amendment only explicitly applies to the Congress, the &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States" title="Supreme Court of the United States"&gt;Supreme Court&lt;/a&gt; has interpreted it as applying to the executive and &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/Judiciary" title="Judiciary"&gt;judicial&lt;/a&gt; branches. Additionally, in the 20th century, the Supreme Court held that the &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Due_Process_Clause" title="Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution"&gt;Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/Incorporation_(Bill_of_Rights)#Amendment_I" title="Incorporation (Bill of Rights)"&gt;applies&lt;/a&gt; the limitations of the First Amendment to each &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/U.S._state" title="U.S. state"&gt;state&lt;/a&gt;, including any &lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/wiki/Local_government_in_the_United_States" title="Local government in the United States"&gt;local government&lt;/a&gt; within a state.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess this means that the First Amendment applies to the State of Michigan too!&amp;nbsp; Nice try.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>2009 Senate Bill 667 (Ban pharmacist “conscientious objector” option )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275650.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2001 05:00:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:275650</guid><dc:creator>admin</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/275650.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=275650</wfw:commentRss><description>Introduced in the Senate on June 25, 2009&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href='http://www.michiganvotes.org/2009-SB-667'&gt;Click here to view bill details.&lt;/a&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>