Social and Civil Liberty Issues

Re: Awesome

crazycajun — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:29:02 GMT

don't bother..

you won't reply to yourself anyway...

dipweed.

Re: Awesome

TrueBlue — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:09:30 GMT

Actually, this is to "SaneMichigander" if he/she is still keeping up with this ..... Thanks for your email. I tried to email you back twice and it came back undeliverable.

Just wanted to say thanks. I see what you mean.

Opps wrong thread. (Edit.) Will post it at the other posting aswell.

Have a good one.

Re: Awesome

crazycajun — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:54:16 GMT

dear trueblue/sanemichigander.

why haven't you replied to THIS post?

could it be that QUESTION PHOBIA is running rampant in your fluttering little liberal heart?

it must be... you can't come up with a reply, all you can do is copy and paste the same question over.. and over... and over... ad nauseum.

Re: Awesome

crazycajun — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:42:20 GMT

dear trueblue.

you make several ASSUMPTIONS in your previous missive.

1. there are very few UNION JOBS outside of michigan and new york city. much of the rest of the country has open shops. unions are no longer necessary unless you are a socialist, and there is no other way to get greedy republican business owners to implement your socialist agenda and elect your socialist politicians.

2. you ASSUME that joe MUST take advantage of your socialist programs because you CHOOSE to.

3. you ASSUME that joe has NO WAY TO PAY FOR THOSE SOCIALIST PROGRAMS because the majority of those ON those programs DO NOT PAY FOR THEM. the TRUTH is, JOE ALREADY PAYS FOR THEM WITH HIGHER TAXES.

4. you ASSUME that the REST OF AMERICA wants to be on all the social programs you so fervently drivel on about. the only part of the country that WANTS to be on social programs is the part that is ALREADY ON social programs.

5. you ASSUME that nobody else but you knows anything. a dangerous assumption in this day and age. there are those who's knowledge and experience far outweigh yours, and to treat them like scum is to force those who DO know better, even if they MIGHT support you, to abandon you simply because YOU would be a despotic leader in a socialist world, and they don't want anyone like you making life decisions for them.

now it's too late to change your piss poor prior performance, but it's not too late to investigate the facts.

fact 1. most of the european countries you blather on about charge MUCH HIGHER TAXES to pay for the meagher services you so desire.

fact 2. SOME of the european and near eastern countries you so wish to emulate are turning to OUR way of working out problems. they are telling their citizens to WORK THINGS OUT FOR THEMSELVES. a first for some, i know, but it's the way of the world now that money worldwide is getting tighter.

fact 3. ALL of the places you would rather be won't have you, because you are, first and foremost, an american, and they DESPISE americans. i'm sure that this is the only thing keeping you from revving up your passport and hitching the first rice boat over. otherwise, you'd be living on the OTHER side of the bridge from detroit, but you AREN'T. canada must be a NICE PLACE TO VISIT, but nothing like HOME SWEET HOME.

by the way, why haven't you renounced your citizenship and just hiked across the river? i'm sure that the canadians, an up close and personal version of the european countries you so desire, would be happy to have you donate 48% of your paycheck to the canadian larder to support those who WILL NOT WORK. oh, by the way, the canadians STILL HAVE A FORM OF DEBTOR'S PRISON. THEY CAN SEND YOU TO JAIL IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES.

i know you won't answer these questions, as you, like others of your ilk, are question-phobic, but the questions are out there, and we already know what your answer will be.

one more thing. how can you call yourself a SOCIALIST when you VOTED FOR MCCAIN? turn in your red book and hide your head in shame.

Re: Awesome

crazycajun — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:24:34 GMT

TrueBlue:

Michpatriot:
.

All the euro weenies and libs love to hate our country right up until they need us to pull their collective butts out of the fire.

What bothers me most is guys like blue boy believe all this socialist drivel, heck most of their talking points come right out of the writings of marx and lenin. Now we let these mental midgets vote and look what happened.

Socialism is the way to go and I make no appologies for stating the TRUTH.

By the way I voted for McStupid. As much as it pained me to do it.

I am glad Obama won between the two of them but I couldnt vote for a liar and a cheater.

He wasnt the best candidate, he was unqualified and has ZERO experience.

But the pendulum in this country is swinging back to the left and I welcome the self destruction of the republican ideology who believe conservative drivel.

And no, Obama isnt a socialist like the republican freaks said he was.

How do I know.....Because I am a socialist.

Mental midgets are people who lack the education to know the difference between socialism, communism, democracy and capitalism.

So for free, and for your enlightenment..............

Socialism and capitalism are ECONOMIC systems.

Democracy and Communism are POLITICAL system.

Those that use the terms socialism and communism interchangably demonstrate their ignorance FAR above and beyond a simple blog "typo".

<that's funny, because your vaunted liberal news agencies use them interchangeably as well. i don't see you claiming YOUR source of rhetoric is wrong. but undeniably, IT IS.>

Typos on blogs are forgivable, ignorance in discussing an issue where you dont even know what the terms mean is NOT.

<ok, vladimir, we will stop forgiving your typos and start expecting you to back up your drivel with FACTS.>

Social Democracys are in much better shape than the USA is right now and theres a reason for it.

<which one would that be, vlad? please list it, so we can check your facts. most of europe is sliding much faster than we are.>

They are BETTER systems, where the governments actually work FOR their people and not exploit them.

<would that be the RUSSIAN REPUBLIC? you remember them? the one's that started a little war with their own people... chechnia IS a part of the russian republic, after all. what did they ever do to the big, bad russians that would cause them to use nerve gas on their own people?>

Thank you for your attention and your LIMITED understanding.

<and thank you for YOURS. i'm sorry i didn't reply as soon as i read this, but i just couldn't stop chuckleing. boy is THIS ever gonna come back and bite you...>

Re: Awesome

TrueBlue — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:41:40 GMT

Michpatriot:
.

All the euro weenies and libs love to hate our country right up until they need us to pull their collective butts out of the fire.

What bothers me most is guys like blue boy believe all this socialist drivel, heck most of their talking points come right out of the writings of marx and lenin. Now we let these mental midgets vote and look what happened.

Socialism is the way to go and I make no appologies for stating the TRUTH.

By the way I voted for McStupid. As much as it pained me to do it.

I am glad Obama won between the two of them but I couldnt vote for a liar and a cheater.

He wasnt the best candidate, he was unqualified and has ZERO experience.

But the pendulum in this country is swinging back to the left and I welcome the self destruction of the republican ideology who believe conservative drivel.

And no, Obama isnt a socialist like the republican freaks said he was.

How do I know.....Because I am a socialist.

Mental midgets are people who lack the education to know the difference between socialism, communism, democracy and capitalism.

So for free, and for your enlightenment..............

Socialism and capitalism are ECONOMIC systems.

Democracy and Communism are POLITICAL system.

Those that use the terms socialism and communism interchangably demonstrate their ignorance FAR above and beyond a simple blog "typo".

Typos on blogs are forgivable, ignorance in discussing a political issue on a POLITICAL blog is NOT.

Social Democracys are in much better shape than the USA is right now and theres a reason for it.

They are BETTER systems, where the governments actually work FOR their people and not exploit them.

Thank you for your attention and your LIMITED understanding.

Re: Awesome

Michpatriot — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:20:33 GMT

Well Said Cajun

The unemployment rate in most of europe has been over 12% for years...seems that socialism thing doesn't work too good.

All the euro weenies and libs love to hate our country right up until they need us to pull their collective butts out of the fire.

What bothers me most is guys like blue boy believe all this socialist drivel, heck most of their talking points come right out of the writings of marx and lenin. Now we let these mental midgets vote and look what happened.

Re: Awesome

crazycajun — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:49:37 GMT

by the way, trueblue.

which army did you serve in?

the UNITED STATES ARMY has rules against those who would overthrow the government being enlisted.

you must also have taken an oath to protect and defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. how did you swallow those words with a straight face?

now, i'll admit that exposure to some of the larger capitals of europe would tend to have you believing that they know better, but look a little closer. each and every town you visited was an ARMY town, supported almost totally by the presence of millions of american soldiers pumping money into their economies.

without that, what you saw would still look as if it were 1946.

we fought for them, then we rebuilt them. we paid for it several times over, and now they scorn us.

well, you may join them if you wish, this is still a free country, after all. but you are also welcome to leave us for them, if they are so superior to us.

i'm sure it's a tough decision to give up your cushy union job to go to a place that is only slightly more leftist than detroit, but i'm sure it's a sacrifice you'll have to make someday.

bon voyage.

Re: Awesome

Michpatriot — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:01:07 GMT

Once again bluey, you talk in circles, ignore facts and generally sound like just another ignorant liberal.

You public schooling/indoctrination shows through everytime you open your pie hole. By the way, most veterans would give you a very quick education. You need to step away from the kool aid and open your eyes to facts, they are wonderful things and when using them in an argument you can't lose.

If you are under 30 and not a liberal, you have no heart. If you are over 30 and not a conservative you have no brain.-W. Churchill

Re: Awesome

crazycajun — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:43:51 GMT

TrueBlue:

crazycajun:

TrueBlue:

No there is no discussion with your MONTHS of demonstrated ignorance.

<in other words, trueblue lost this arguement>

The simple fact that this law was EVEN proposed is evidence of moving in the right direction.

<NO, it's proof this state is moving in the LEFT direction, AGAIN. >

Furthermore, it would seem that you are convicted in the court of "public opinion"....yet again.

<i wouldn't be too sure about that. the 'score' is TWO TO ONE AGAINST YOU. in case you haven't counted. so much for conviction in the court of public opinion. by the way where are those facts you so loosely ignore?>

Enough!   <i'm sure you've had enough, but i have not yet begun to fight.>

Your bravery at least out weights your intelligence.

<pity yours does not. you have neither bravery nor intelligence.>

You do not "fight" because in the area of intellectual discussion you are unarmed.

<such wit... i'm skewered to the soul... oh, the ignominity... oh the blessed scurge... oh the scalding tongue...>

Your positions on every issue you have commented on have been wrong except one. And that must have been sheer luck.

<this coming from the guy who is PROVABLY WRONG on every issue he has commented on? i'm truly hurt now...>

Your lack of education and knowledge of politics, economics, health care and even city planning is self-evident.

<your lack of couth shines like a beacon over these desolate plains, illuminating even the most gormless with the light of your stupidity.>

You are merely tiresome.

<no, you are just tired of losing to me.>

There is no point in playing "tic-tac-toe" with you.

<as you keep on losing.>

   Its boring.

<no, it's quite entertaining to whup you at every turn, then to taunt you to finally back up your inanities with facts, which you never do.>

Its just that you dont see it because you lack either inteligence , education, or both.

<nope, wrong again, i don't see it because i'm too busy laughing uproariously at you.>

Your presence on this blog is a hinderance to any real discussion.

<funny, we haven't had a REAL discussion with you yet. i'm still waiting for that to happen, any time you are ready...>

   In kindness I will simple tell you that you make a fool out of your screen name every time you post.

<please READ YOUR LAST SENTENCE, then read it again, then have someone who knows how to spell SIMPLY proof-read it for you.>

So maybe even your so called bravery is in question as you hide like a coward behind your annonimity.

what anonymity are you talking about? i list a sign on name, and an email address. you may contact me at any time, i welcome it. but you won't. i'm quite sure of it. those of your ilk lack the stones to back up their rhetoric with anything else other than more rhetoric.>

In words you and your kind might understand.....get lost.

<nah... don't think so. i've been on this site for years, you've only been on this site for a few weeks. in other words, IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE YOU SAY SO.

have a nice day, dipweed.

Re: Awesome

TrueBlue — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:04:17 GMT

crazycajun:

TrueBlue:

No there is no discussion with your MONTHS of demonstrated ignorance.

<in other words, trueblue lost this arguement>

The simple fact that this law was EVEN proposed is evidence of moving in the right direction.

<NO, it's proof this state is moving in the LEFT direction, AGAIN. >

Furthermore, it would seem that you are convicted in the court of "public opinion"....yet again.

<i wouldn't be too sure about that. the 'score' is TWO TO ONE AGAINST YOU. in case you haven't counted. so much for conviction in the court of public opinion. by the way where are those facts you so loosely ignore?>

Enough! <i'm sure you've had enough, but i have not yet begun to fight.>

Your bravery at least out weights your intelligence. You do not "fight" because in the area of intellectual discussion you are unarmed.

Your positions on every issue you have commented on have been wrong except one. And that must have been sheer luck.

Your lack of education and knowledge of politics, economics, health care and even city planning is self-evident.

You are merely tiresome. There is no point in playing "tic-tac-toe" with you. Its boring. Its just that you dont see it because you lack either inteligence , education, or both.

Your presence on this blog is a hinderance to any real discussion. In kindness I will simple tell you that you make a fool out of your screen name every time you post.

So maybe even your so called bravery is in question as you hide like a coward behind your annonimity.

In words you and your kind might understand.....get lost.

Re: Awesome

crazycajun — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:39:41 GMT

TrueBlue:

No there is no discussion with your MONTHS of demonstrated ignorance.

<in other words, trueblue lost this arguement>

The simple fact that this law was EVEN proposed is evidence of moving in the right direction.

<NO, it's proof this state is moving in the LEFT direction, AGAIN. >

Furthermore, it would seem that you are convicted in the court of "public opinion"....yet again.

<i wouldn't be too sure about that. the 'score' is TWO TO ONE AGAINST YOU. in case you haven't counted. so much for conviction in the court of public opinion. by the way where are those facts you so loosely ignore?>

Enough! <i'm sure you've had enough, but i have not yet begun to fight.>

Re: Awesome

crazycajun — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:33:54 GMT

dear trueblue.

you been dippin in the nerve gas again? if you love europe and it's socialist ways, buy yourself a ticket. if you think this country is anane and inept, please feel free to move.

it's amazing that our auto industry is feeding one of the largest communist countries, even while it's failing here.

it's amazing that our companies form the major part of several foreign economies (take brazil, for example, g.m. almost owns all of brazil outright.)

it's also amazing that you seem so dearly in love with a system that has not survived anywhere intact. russia is no more, china is on it's way to downfall with the intervention of the automobile, and even north korea and vietnam are tumbling under the weight of bluejeans and ipods.

your beloved system won't even work here, as, after a few years of "living la vida leftist" the electorate gets a little tired of the empty promises and sooner than later elects another republican.

come on, where is that list of people who swear they were BORN HOMOSEXUAL? probably right next to that list of those who have it listed on their death certificates that SECOND HAND SMOKE was the cause of death.

Re: Awesome

TrueBlue — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:48:56 GMT

Michpatriot:

I want special so called rights also. How about you get a much harsher penalty for attacking me cause of your inane hatred of good conservative values? A crime is a crime regardless of who it is commited by or on. Funny how you talk in circles and never show any proof of this "born homosexual" nonsense. Seems you think that just because you say something often enough that it is true...Hmmm, where have I heard that idea before?

Ha !! GOOD "Conservative" values ??? what are those?? Being a traitor to your country.

Lets not even go there. I welcome the day the LAST of the ignorant, evil, bankrupt, "conservative" ideology is FINALLY and totally dismantled as the inept and evil system it is.

This US ARMY veteran knows EXACTLY what good "conservative" values are, and the sooner they are on the junk pile of history the better!!

Better for the world and the USA.

"Better DEAD than RED" has a WHOLE new meaning in 2009 but very much STILL True !

Re: Awesome

Michpatriot — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:09:24 GMT

I want special so called rights also. How about you get a much harsher penalty for attacking me cause of your inane hatred of good conservative values? A crime is a crime regardless of who it is commited by or on. Funny how you talk in circles and never show any proof of this "born homosexual" nonsense. Seems you think that just because you say something often enough that it is true...Hmmm, where have I heard that idea before?