Social and Civil Liberty Issues

Re: i don't know how old you are..

saganhill — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 18:49:52 GMT

I thank you for your service to our country. As a USA citizen, I highly question your mandatory pledge to the flag. As a country founded on freedom shouldnt I have that freedom? Shouldnt I be free from having to recite words in a public school? You state that people like me should go back to the "commie country" I came from. But in fact arnt you acting just like the commie you hate? Indoctrination is just that no matter if its communist, Fascist, federalist, or whatever. Forcing people to recite words is nothing but communism at its best. Living is a free society one should not have to be indoctrinated or brainwashed no matter how good you think the idea is. Burn any good books lately?

Re: 2005 Senate Bill 72 (Require school Pledge of Allegiance recitation )

seperation of church and state — Mon, 18 May 2009 00:38:14 GMT

Requiring public schools to recite the pledge of allegiance is an obvious infringement on our rights to practice or to not practice any religion we choose. Why subject our children to this infringement? That is also obvious, to try to encourage them to believe in a god and also to make them feel "patriotic" about their country. I teach my children to belong the world or to the universe not to a nation and although we live in this region, we belong to everyone in this world. I am not raising a soldier. You should ask yourselves if you are willing to raise one as well. That is what they want you to do. My children do not stand for the pledge at school and they are ostresized for it. They are not supposed to be encouraged to do the pledge but they are. Teachers demand they stand for the pledge even after having conversations with them to the contrary. We can teach our children in the home and at churches, if you so choose, religious beliefs, they do not need to be reinforced at school in a obvious secular fashion. That is why we have separation of church and state. My daughter came home from school last week upset that a child in her class twisted her arm after my daughter touched a toy all the other (well indoctornated) children were touching, while this child said to mine, " you cannot touch it, you do not believe in god." Parents should ask themselves if these are the kind of people they want their childen to become, someone that has no tolerance for differences, and who uses violence to try to control others who are different from them. But maybe they do, isnt that why wars are faught? Regardless of all the predjidice my family and I have suffered from their socialization of these vicious ideals we are still a part of the public school system and will continue to be. Change could not happen otherwise. Think about these things before you send your children to school.

to anonymous citizen

Anonymous Citizen — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:45:16 GMT

ok so you obviously dont have the strongest belief in God but look around the things that you have didnt come from you so get off your high horse and give God some credit , he deserves it.

Pledge of Alligance

Anonymous Citizen — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:36:48 GMT

When you are born you don't know love for your mother, but as you age you (in most cases) you began to love for all she does. She protects to feeds you and conforts. This Pledge of Alligance is similar, our founding fathers get all to establish a free nation, many gave the lives for this nation, was clearly founded on GOD. I ask god to bless this nation for soon we will all bow for forgivness.

the pledge does not

Anonymous Citizen — Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:47:30 GMT

say 'under Jesus'. it says "under God". look up what it says on the top of the washington monument.

Maybe it is time to change it AGAIN. We are a diverse nation.

Anonymous Citizen — Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:22:53 GMT

!!!!

I'm with you

Anonymous Citizen — Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:18:07 GMT

Since religion is the MAIN cause of conflict throughout history, just don't go there

Thank goodness our students still have a CHOICE

Anonymous Citizen — Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:16:32 GMT

to say it or under God

do you get the point

Anonymous Citizen — Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:41:23 GMT

that thousands of people of faith petitioned the congress to add those two words, and without those petitions of a majority of voters in this country, they wouldn't have been added. do you get THAT point???

They did!

Anonymous Citizen — Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:13:55 GMT

The pledge was written in 1892. The government added " under God" in 1954. It was 62 years between those, in which people were perfectly happy with it. It has been almost 52 1/2 years since, and there have been fights ever since. Do you get my point?

But it's dividing.

Anonymous Citizen — Sun, 21 Jan 2007 17:07:25 GMT

I understand your point. But, there are some people who think that the Pledge is saying that you have to be Christian to be patriotic. There are lots of other religions in this country and in this state. Why should we make children do something that is against what they believe in? I say that the Pledge should not be required in schools.

to be a patriot is to

Anonymous Citizen — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 16:43:02 GMT

love and defend your country. doing what is best for the country is sometimes difficult to do when you are busy doing what is best for yourself.

well said

Anonymous Citizen — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:40:12 GMT

One can be a patroit without saying god in the pledge. Didn't they ADD god to it later?

well,

Anonymous Citizen — Fri, 12 Jan 2007 04:02:17 GMT

You can also be a patriot without saying god in the pledge.

Oh man.

Anonymous Citizen — Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:58:07 GMT

You want to read the Redneck Manifesto by Jim Goad. Just see some of the facts the schools don't ever tell.