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Re: 2011 Senate Bill 615 (Make Memorial day, Labor day, and July 4 fishing license “holidays” )

right to do bussiness — Fri, 23 Mar 2012 19:07:04 GMT

Mrs Gypsy - some accurate info for your education. GM's claim to being the world's top automaker is iffy. Germany's Volkswagen Group has a better claim to the title. Since dodgy accounting and America are practically synonymous, we must look into the GM claim. It says that it sold 9.03 million vehicles in 2011. But, this total was achieved with the sleight of hand of including the output of a Chinese subsidiary that it has interests in but does not own: GM's rivals also point out that the big U.S. auto maker's numbers are boosted by ownership stakes in China's SAIC Motor Corp. and Liuzhou Wuling Motors Co. While SAIC builds GM cars in China, Wuling's 1.2 million vehicles last year are mostly cheap commercial vehicles used only in China. Some analysts prefer not to count the Wuling vehicles in GM's global total because GM doesn't have a controlling stake in its partner [my emphasis]. "We have to draw the line somewhere and this at least gives us some consistency around the globe," said Jeff Schuster, an analyst with forecasting firm LMC Automotive. The VW Group previously reported that it sold 8.16 million vehicles in 2011. Unlike GM, it did not count the numbers of its commercial vehicle subsidiaries MAN SE and Scania AB (formerly of Saab-Scania for you trivia buffs). Attention GM: it helps with the bragging rights that VW actually owns these concerns. Adding both in boosts VW figures by about 200,000. So, subtract the 1.2 million Wuling vehicles gives you legitimate GM sales of 7.83 million vehicles. The once and future king of all things automotive however is the maker of the people's car with [8.16 + 0.20 =] 8.36 million in vehicle sales. Bottom line: American automakers AND politicians are economical with the truth if not necessarily with taking away the well-being of future generations. Yanquis attempting to pull an (amateurish) fast one; what a surprise. Germans have a reputation for being plainspoken; certain others for being emptily boastful. I would also love to hear the response of unionized and protectionist crowds Obama is pandering to when they find out that GM's (bogus) claim largely boils down to Chinese production. "Made in America?" Not quite. Why doesn't this glib assessment of US bailouts for all and sundry money losers not discuss, say, mortgage lenders Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

Re: 2011 Senate Bill 615 (Make Memorial day, Labor day, and July 4 fishing license “holidays” )

right to do bussiness — Fri, 23 Mar 2012 18:53:08 GMT

FreeRiding- thier fishing all-wright !!!!!! Gypsy still thinks GM is the #1 automaker, As much money as i have put in my business heck its the number one computer business also.

Re: 2011 Senate Bill 615 (Make Memorial day, Labor day, and July 4 fishing license “holidays” )

Freerider — Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:28:18 GMT

Isn't this bill about fishing licenses?

Re: 2011 Senate Bill 615 (Make Memorial day, Labor day, and July 4 fishing license “holidays” )

peppo — Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:05:02 GMT

gypsy:
I'm guessing there's a lot you "don't know of". Like that GM is the opposite of sinking, since it's the number one automaker in the world.

Gypsy, It's amazing to me how some people think. They are so anti union that they can't see straight. The Union benefits more than what most people think!!! The UAW made concessions and Continually works with the company to make money for everyone involved!!

My boss asks me my opinion before he goes to a non union engineer. Just sayin.

Re: 2011 Senate Bill 615 (Make Memorial day, Labor day, and July 4 fishing license “holidays” )

peppo — Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:57:51 GMT

right to do bussiness:
Preppo did you bump your head on a sinker you are supporting small business. dont know of any union made sinkers except GM.

See your buddy Tatertot has demented your mind. I Have no problems with companies that are non-union. Unless they fail to take care of their employees. If they unfairly treat their workers then they should be unionized. I am not the mad liberal you guys think I am. I am Defintley PRO union, PRO union doesn't mean Liberal as all hell!! Small business are the life blood of this country, at the same time I like to see these same small companies spread the wealth a little bit. I'm not saying make everyones pay the same as the owners pay. I am saying pay them a livable wage if your company is thriving.

Re: 2011 Senate Bill 615 (Make Memorial day, Labor day, and July 4 fishing license “holidays” )

gypsy — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:52:28 GMT

I'm guessing there's a lot you "don't know of". Like that GM is the opposite of sinking, since it's the number one automaker in the world.

Re: 2011 Senate Bill 615 (Make Memorial day, Labor day, and July 4 fishing license “holidays” )

right to do bussiness — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:29:26 GMT

Preppo did you bump your head on a sinker you are supporting small business. dont know of any union made sinkers except GM.

Re: 2011 Senate Bill 615 (Make Memorial day, Labor day, and July 4 fishing license “holidays” )

peppo — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:12:53 GMT

Sounds great to me. Generate a lot of extra spending money for small businesses!!! Win Win!!

Re: 2011 Senate Bill 615 (Make Memorial day, Labor day, and July 4 fishing license “holidays” )

isabelleelise — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:17:47 GMT

Good bill. I support it.

2011 Senate Bill 615 (Make Memorial day, Labor day, and July 4 fishing license “holidays” )

Votes Admin — Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:17:22 GMT

Introduced in the Senate on September 7, 2011

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