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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Environment and Property Rights </title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/12.aspx</link><description>Regulations, Land Use, Water Use, Natural Resources and Recreation</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 (Debug Build: 30417.1769)</generator><item><title>Re: 2008 House Bill 5628 (Mandate skiers and snowboarders wear helmet )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/269717.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:02:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:269717</guid><dc:creator>crazycajun</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/269717.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=269717</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;obviously, our legislators have SOLVED all of our state&amp;#39;s problems, and have now moved on to littler, and less important things... &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;or is this how they occupy their time, wheedling away our rights?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this shows a lack of respect for the citizens, and a mindset that if a citizen gets hurt, it&amp;#39;s the GOVERNMENTS JOB to pay for it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 2008 House Bill 5628 (Mandate skiers and snowboarders wear helmet )</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/269412.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:56:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:269412</guid><dc:creator>tensace</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/269412.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=269412</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/Themes/leanandgreen/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;admin:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Introduced in the House on January 17, 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.michiganvotes.org/2008-HB-5628"&gt;Click here to view bill details.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kill this nanny state bill now.&amp;nbsp; With all the crap wrong with our state this shouldn&amp;#39;t even be on the radar screen.&amp;nbsp; Needless, unwarranted, meddlesome tripe providing yet another reason for Midwest skiers to look to states other than Michigan.&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;ll be the first to pass on skiing in my life long state, having begun at age 4--51 years without incident.&amp;nbsp; You want a helmet.&amp;nbsp; Wear one. On YOUR head.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>wow</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238422.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:04:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:238422</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238422.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=238422</wfw:commentRss><description>that is your choice not mine. you are a douche bag.</description></item><item><title>There used to be something called freedom in this state</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238428.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:48:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:238428</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238428.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=238428</wfw:commentRss><description>Helmets are a good idea, but if i don't want to wear one and i get hurt, that is my choice. Get the government out of my life, it is MY LIFE right? I used to wear a helmet when i was first learning to snowboard and i still occasional throw the thing on when i hit the park, but if i am an experienced snowboarder just out for a nice pow run i don't need a helmet. I snowboard at shanty creek resort the place were a girl was killed, and now there is a law to make everyone wear helmets. Where were her parents? Why wouldn't they take some personal responsibility and make there child wear a helmet. Don't force me to wear one.</description></item><item><title>My Accidents</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238427.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:31:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:238427</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238427.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=238427</wfw:commentRss><description>So I have been snowboarding for a rather long time(9 years and about to test out for ski patrol) and I'll admit that I was going faster than what I thought while I was in the trees but did not see a jump that was over a hill and managed to have a really bad accident and apparently I hit a tree and didn't know what was going on but I did managed to get up and finish my run and if I was not wearing my helmet I would have brain damage or be dead... well there is a big dint in my helmet!! I was in the hospital for 11 days and people cant even tell that I was in an accident! Soo I recommend that you do wear a helmet!</description></item><item><title>ski instructor against a helmet law</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238426.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:46:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:238426</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238426.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=238426</wfw:commentRss><description>i'm a ski instructor at a northwest mi resort, i've never wore a helmet, and dont plan on getting one any time soon.... so when i'm teaching kids (3-6yrs.) on the beginner "slope" i'll have to wear a helmet, most of the time i don't even have skis on!!! i'm calling Bulls#!t.. I know my limits and stay within them..like any body would that has half a brain. and to think some jack off in southren michigan wrote this bill. most of the resorts in michigan are north of lansing.... last i checked this was a "free" country! as long as my choices don't infringe on the rights of someone else i can do what ever i want!! including NOT wearing a helmet when i ski/snowboard! most helmets sold for winter sports are only rated for about a 15 mph impact. GET A LIFE BOB CONSTAN... SO YOU WONT RUIN MY WINTER!!!!!!!</description></item><item><title>Ha, ha, ha....</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238425.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:02:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:238425</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238425.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=238425</wfw:commentRss><description>God.  You people in the national joke (national embarrassment, really) known as "Michigan" sure seem to love your helmets.

It makes me wonder whether the one successful business still located in Michigan happens to be a helmet manufacturer?</description></item><item><title>My Choice</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238424.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:32:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:238424</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238424.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=238424</wfw:commentRss><description>Please keep your eye on matters that are important Bob.  Worring about my saftey at the hill isn't an important matter.  I can look out for myself, you need to look out for issues that effect more than just a handfull of michiganders.</description></item><item><title>What</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238423.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:48:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:238423</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238423.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=238423</wfw:commentRss><description>a dumb idea. What's next? Anyone who drives a car must wear a helmet? Stay out of my life politicians!</description></item><item><title>freedom...</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238412.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 01:14:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:238412</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238412.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=238412</wfw:commentRss><description>"Freedom doesn't equual passing your medical expenses from injury on to other individuals"

yes it does. just ask hillary.

she spent eight years trying to do JUST THAT as first lady.</description></item><item><title>Second-hand socialism</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238411.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 00:06:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:238411</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238411.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=238411</wfw:commentRss><description>"Freedom doesn't equual passing your medical expenses from injury on to other individuals"

Of course not--and you can blame gummint for that bit of collectivism.</description></item><item><title>Is it still April 1?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238401.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:59:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:238401</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238401.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=238401</wfw:commentRss><description>"You might as well through in bike helmets too."
But you could put an eye out with that!

"I'm not for more regulation"
Oh yeah?

"but closed head injuries can be prevented."
Love that passive voice of statism.  Prevented by whom?  By you on your own head, please.

"How about a tax credit for those that purchase and actually wear their helmets"
Oops--a regulation.

" - now there's a incentive!"
To call the moving van.</description></item><item><title>Steel-toed bunny slippers?</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238406.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:52:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:238406</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238406.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=238406</wfw:commentRss><description>I cant tell you how many times I've cracked my toe against the bed leg.  Come on, gummint, dont you care about our toes?</description></item><item><title>I agree</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238421.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 02:48:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:238421</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238421.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=238421</wfw:commentRss><description>I would rather look dumb then end up in a wheel chair.</description></item><item><title>Ski MI Bunny Slopes</title><link>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238420.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:50:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:238420</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous Citizen</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/238420.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&amp;PostID=238420</wfw:commentRss><description>First off Michigan ski slopes are not the best to begin with and if you start making people wear   Helmets they are just going to go somewhere else like OH and ski down a MT. of Garbage. 

Stop trying to be our governmental Nanny, last time I checked my parents were still around to tell me what to do. If you need revenue start writing tickets for the burnt out tail lights, it would be fun to know when people are turning and stopping for a change.

Missing Big Mountains But we ski what we got.</description></item></channel></rss>