http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/12.aspxRegulations, Land Use, Water Use, Natural Resources and RecreationenCommunityServer 2008 (Debug Build: 30417.1769)http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268632.aspxTue, 27 Jun 2006 14:05:20 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268632Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268632.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268632No one doubts that a small percentage of birds do find a way to ingest toxic substances, but most experts agree that no increase or decrease in the loon or raptor population will happen by eliminating lead. Getting the lead out of fishing tackle needs to be based on scientific facts and definable outcomes, not fear and misplaced hysteria. The fact is that only a few loons since 1976 have clearly been identified as having suffered lead toxicosis. Absent from studies often quoted by the people supporting this is the comprehensive 1999 study requested by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and conducted by the National Wildlife Health Research Center in Madison, Wisconsin. In this under-reported study, liver, blood, stomach, and radiograph samples were taken from 2,749 individual birds of 30 species. In addition, necropsy records of 36,671 waterbirds and bald eagles from the files of the National Wildlife Health Center from the years 1975 through 1999 were examined. The results showed that only 3.5 percent of common loons (from a sample of 313) had ingested lead sinkers and just 27 of 36,671 waterbird and bald eagle carcasses (0.007 percent) contained ingested lead sinkers. So, what happens to fishing tackle lost while angling? In our nonacidic, soft bottomed lakes, most objects such as lead sinkers are permanently buried within days. Lead in fishing tackle is not the same as lead in gasoline or paint. It is not airborne or accessible to children for ingestion. Workers making fishing lures are closely tested for lead levels and no reports of hazardous effects exist. they need to find something else to spend there time on beside this issuehttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268631.aspxSat, 27 May 2006 17:58:39 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268631Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268631.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268631!http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268630.aspxSat, 29 Apr 2006 00:45:31 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268630Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268630.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268630Thank youhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268599.aspxWed, 26 Apr 2006 22:15:03 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268599Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268599.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268599Do you own the internet? All hail Frantz, King of Michigan Votes!http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268629.aspxTue, 25 Apr 2006 21:56:05 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268629Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268629.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268629Have a nice day!http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268628.aspxTue, 25 Apr 2006 21:54:13 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268628Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268628.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268628says a lot about Michigan which bills are most frequently visitedhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268627.aspxTue, 25 Apr 2006 21:52:19 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268627Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268627.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268627!http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268626.aspxTue, 25 Apr 2006 21:51:16 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268626Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268626.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268626that's why I have enough brain cells left to know this is a good idea.http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268607.aspxTue, 25 Apr 2006 21:48:46 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268607Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268607.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268607:)http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268601.aspxTue, 25 Apr 2006 21:47:42 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268601Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268601.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268601We are not superior, and people eat these fish, so think about it.http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268598.aspxTue, 25 Apr 2006 21:46:20 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268598Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268598.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268598Have you considered therapy?http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268625.aspxTue, 25 Apr 2006 11:32:44 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268625Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268625.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268625We are at the top of the food chain. Maybe you should try a fish fry and a few beers...you might enjoy it. Besides that, folks will like you better when you become happier and less smug.http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268624.aspxMon, 24 Apr 2006 21:08:02 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268624Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268624.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268624...another to do what lead does.http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268595.aspxSat, 22 Apr 2006 23:13:29 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268595Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268595.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268595If you have some extra time, arrange to visit your legislator, or the one introducing this bill.http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268596.aspxSat, 22 Apr 2006 23:11:07 GMT85480579-cbb1-4596-8e66-ca77d6981342:268596Anonymous Citizen0http://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/thread/268596.aspxhttp://www.michiganvotes.org/forum/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=12&PostID=268596a while back, so you can blame me. I come from a fishing family. My grandfather made the first down riggers on Lake Michigan, and he started the first skin diving club in our town. He used to help the police find bodies in the water, even in the winter. I stirred this up, and I HOPE that he would be proud of me. I am not a member of PETA. I'm sorry if you would have to buy new tackle. Perhaps there could be arranged a system in which fisher(people:) could turn in their lead tackle for some sort of credit or something. Tax credit, SOMETHING, to make this transition easier. I am a teacher, and I don't want any brain damage for children or anyone. Sorry. I know people with lead poisoning that may die. It's a big deal. I love the Lake, but, now we know better. Lewis and Clark's men used thunderclappers which contained mercury as they traveled across the US as a laxative. Not too bright, but they just didn't know any better. It's time to give up lead, too. I apologize for any inconvenience, but it's time. Historians theorize that the fall of the Roman Empire was due to the chemical reaction between the lead wine goblets and the wine, resulting in strange behavior and illness. Lead has to go.