Michigan Votes Forum

 There's thousands of people that don't have jobs!!! So let waste time and make a STUPID bill about Diesel. I have an idea STOP STOP stupid bills like this one . Let  focus on getting people back to work!!!! Bye the way my truck been idle for 25 min now

Why would anyone want such a law?  There is nothing as bracing as the nauseous oder of diesel fumes in the wind!  Besides, being a state noted for its diesel flatulence will enhance the tourist industry. 

Ok, lets see, Diesel Fuel is in Excess of $4.00 per gallon, an Ideling Diesel Truck uses approx 1 gal. per hour ideling at std. Idle, and more if on High Idle to keep warm in the winter or Cool to sleep in the Summer. The large trucking companies can and are setting the idle time on a truck to approx 5 then it automatically shuts down, this decreases wear on the internal parts of the engine to let them cool from on-road use. This law is not necessary, it is based on old technoligy, and old sterotypes of Diesel Engines, the new 2010 and newer Diesel engines emit cleaner air than the air they take in.. So this law is only going to generate revenue for the Governmental entitiy where the un-educated public have the power to issue citations.... 

Perfect example of the ingorance of the un-informed.. do some research before you place your mouth in gear.. 

A few issues I've seen in cold climate Diesels  

- Fuel freezing/gelling, either in storage or in lines
- Freezing of crankcase breather systems
- Freezing of condensation in exhaust system
- Over-ventilation of enclosure causing excessive cooling of engine
- Starter battery failure
- Starter motor failure
- Freezing of jacket water system

 Diesel idling bill restriction?????  You have to be kidding right?  This has to be a liberal whack-o that brought this forward.  When the weather is  5 degrees the diesel engine has to idle moron!  In case you haven't noticed, Michigan is a cold state!  Get out of the basement once in awhile and take a deep breath.

 Yeap!  A democrat by the name Son Yung Yacktrap or something.  Typical BS by a democrat!

I've heard inhaling diesel exhaust damages brain cells.

 How long have you been inhaling?

I don't inhale, and you should avoid it in the future too.

 You sound just like Bill Clinton.......another liberal/progressive loon!

Old fashioned progressive where the welfare of the individual has a direct effect on the welfare of the state. Therefore, government's job needs to be to make sure that everyone has the same opportunities to succeed. That basic needs are met. Healthy citizens = healthy society.

And you TaterSalad, sound like a typical mindless, imbicle, who is easily lead... 

 The old cradle to grave routine that progressives/ liberals and communists love to resite.  Typical liberal BS!  Same as your beloved Obamacare.........which by the way......is coming to a very short conclusion.

Apparently, inhaling diesel exhaust also gives one the power to see into the future.

So I guess this liberal wants us to die in the winter? Not all of us can afford an APU.