Michigan Votes Forum

Your Mamma ! May have figured out how to unsubscribe from this nonsense. 

 

Walt - post those instructions for the gypsy to follow. Nice Robot got one too, and neat colors. gotta go smell fresh cookies.

Did that aroma waft down the stairs and overpower the stench of stall fritos?

What is a frito is that something available from the Govt.

It's at the bottom of your food pyramid.

anybody know how many gypsy's it takes to screw in a light bulb?

This bill, proposed by Republicans, increases taxes on the middle class.

JIP C - class envy is one of our biggest problems right know in america.

Turn off Fox its not class envy the problem is one class is carrying more than its fair share of the load. The wage earner shouldn't have twice the tax burden of the Mitt Romney s 13% vs the wage earners ave 26 or 28%. The job creation myth is just that when high earners were taxed at 50% or more the highest number of jobs were created. I don't care who earns what just pay your share.

gypsy:

This bill, proposed by Republicans, increases taxes on the middle class.

Senator Pappageorge is a R.I.N.O. (Republican In Name Only).  So is Roger "fat boy" Kahn. They're an embarrassment to the party and should be voted out ASAP!    Any Republican who votes against individual liberty and for tax increases, as often as these two clowns have, is a RINO. 

The 15% that Romney is paying is the second bite of the apple. The money he earned before he invested it has already been taxed at the maximum rate. Investment tax has to be at a lower rate, otherwise nobody would invest. If nobody made investments we would not have computers, iPhones, or any of the things that make our lives better. Investments are also a gamble. Unlike a job, there is no guarantee you will get paid on an investment. You could lose money. That's the other half of the truth that those who try to create class envy always "conveniently" forget to mention. 

Romney didn't invest his money freerider, he invested other people's money. He didn't earn any of it himself.

Freerider:

Investment tax has to be at a lower rate, otherwise nobody would invest.

You must be kidding, right? What would they do with their money if they didn't invest it to make more? Computers and iphones were invented due to research backed by the government. Investment by people like you and me through our tax dollars.

Freerider:

Unlike a job, there is no guarantee you will get paid on an investment.

That doesn't seem to be the case with the Wall Street tycoons who made investments, lost, and then were bailed out with taxpayer dollars. Oh, they also bet against their own investments to assure themselves of a handsome reward. This isn't class envy, it's an awakening to the reality of "trickle down" economics, a mutant form of capitalism.

MRS JIP C - you are a crazed lunatic you despise anybody making any Money unless the union gets their cut why dont you quit your job so somebody can feed their family. also - rtdb is not defending the Romney camp in any way. I gotta go the basements flooding.

 I was unaware Steve Jobs was a gov't employee. Nor did I realize that Apple was a gov't run company.

I would like to get one thing straight. Bailing out Wall St., wrong. Bailing out GM and Chrysler, OK? How about they were BOTH wrong! Ford did it without taxpayer money. I have since traded in my Silverado for an F-150. I am a Ford man from now on.

Maybe you are unaware the computer was a government project in WWII. Without government research money, there would be no internet, and without government assistance, some of the engineers Steve Jobs hired to design the iphone wouldn't have been able to go to college. The banks were bailed out. The auto companies received government loans. Glad you own a Ford, but maybe you didn't notice the Ford CEO sitting at the table with Chyrysler, GM and the UAW asking for the loans from the government. If GM and Chrysler would have gone down, Ford would have too. They are all interconnected to the suppliers.

Gypsy - you need to stick to answering questions you know something about, this is something you dont know anything about. 1. Ford didnt ask or request any money they were requested to be there by the goverment. to support the questions that were being asked, and facts and figures of the union agrrements and legacy costs they all endure. - yes the unions put gm and chrysler on their ass. plain and simple 2. Suppliers are not interconected secrets are guarded closely, you my obama lover are a loser and wish you had talent. but know you see the writing on the wall good bye union ...... 3. OBAMA One Big Ass Mistake Amerika 4.Ford Motor Company is alive today not becasue of the union or any goverment but becasue of Family business ethics and making money and puitting it away for times like these caused by unions. 5. Im going to order another one today maybe get one for tater and get him outta that piece a dirt chevy........

I can only hope all those money are well spent. I do have a question though since I plan to get in touch with a used car dealership IA. Do these vehicle registration taxes also apply for the used cars? It would really help to know.

 In my opinion, using an increases in registration fees to pay for road repairs is just another way of raising taxes.  It is your typical democrat/liberal express lane to bigger government.  Get the money from legacy costs placed upon the government.  If Snyder goes any farther with this Bill 495 we in the Tea Party will go forward with primarying him next election and get another Republican in there unlike the RINO Synder is turning out to be.

rtdbussiness(sic)....Ford feared a collapse of GM and Chrysler at the time would have hurt suppliers and, in turn, Ford itself. Ford Chief Executive Officer Alan R. Mulally also asked Congress for a “credit line” of up to $9 billion in case the economy worsened. Although Ford did not need money from the $80 billion bailout program, Ford did receive $5.9 billion in government loans in 2009 to retool its manufacturing plants to produce more fuel-efficient cars, and the company lobbied for and benefited from the cash-for-clunkers program. In particular, the collapse of one or both of Ford's domestic competitors would threaten Ford because they have 80 percent overlap in supplier networks and nearly 25 percent of Ford’s top dealers also own GM and Chrysler franchises. That's why Ford was sitting at the table. Seems you are lacking in basic knowledge of how the auto industry works. I do encourage you to buy another Ford though, and also get one for tatertot. Union made!

I'm in total agreement with you Tater sir, except for the part where you claim this bill is a Democrat/Liberal "express lane to bigger government". It was proposed by a Republican, and does in fact conform to their idea of increasing taxes on the middle class while giving tax breaks to the wealthy. So you and I buddy are together on being against Snyder and this tax increase. Great!

 Bigger government is a liberal mantra or should we say.............ideology.  Liberals can not get up in the morning without knowing that some form of government will be in their lives and controlling them.  It is their lifeblood.  They need someone to tell them how to get through life.  The proof is in the pudding.  Look at Obama's bigger government.  Hel_ , Obama can't even do the job of the Presidency himself because he has to hire 40 czars to do his job.  He's a joke and so is the Party of Food Stamps!

 As for Ford Mtr. Company.  Thank God for Fords NOT needing the bail-out monies because the Obama socialist machine would have the whole domestic auto industry to plant his socialist ideology into.  Without Ford, the "restructure" of GM and Chrysler had to held to a minimum of government intrusion on private companies.  Why?  Pattern agreements by the Union.  Now you will notice that pattern agreements are a thing of the past which is great for the auto companies.  They can now adjust on their own business climate and structure(s) without having the UAW goons telling them that they have to put up or go on strike because this or that company has "already agreed" to this or that!  Thank you Fords!  Obama hates this also.  Notice how Obama/Ratner placed an Obama puppet into the GM Chairmanship don;t you while Allen Mulalhy is "on his own". 

Ford feared a collapse of GM and Chrysler at the time would have hurt suppliers and, in turn, Ford itself. Ford Chief Executive Officer Alan R. Mulally also asked Congress for a “credit line” of up to $9 billion in case the economy worsened. Although Ford did not need money from the $80 billion bailout program, Ford did receive $5.9 billion in government loans in 2009 to retool its manufacturing plants to produce more fuel-efficient cars, and the company lobbied for and benefited from the cash-for-clunkers program. In particular, the collapse of one or both of Ford's domestic competitors would threaten Ford because they have 80 percent overlap in supplier networks and nearly 25 percent of Ford’s top dealers also own GM and Chrysler franchises. That's why Ford was sitting at the table. Seems you are lacking in basic knowledge of how the auto industry works. I do encourage you to buy another Ford though, and also get one for tatertot. Union made!

Deer JIIP SEE(SIC) keep posting your lies, and half truths a big one is the cash n clunker program by obama you say ford benefited from , well approxiametly 89,868 vehicles were processed under that direct offer and dealer rebate program. 17,249 of that number did not carry a Ford Motor Co. direct MOS which meant they were manufactured outside of the usa. looking a little further this program wasnt about helping ford, and carried stipulations on fuel economy, and focused on more purchasing power the consumer if they chose a vehicle with a high mpg rating. consequently it just happen to be Ford Motor Company that had better vehicles. and the public overshadowed by your 80 billion had no problem with the ford blue oval. - I rest my case you toyota driving taco bender.

class envy the new GOP mantra My investments are all made with earned income and It may be that most investments are made with earned income.

Macho Macho man " right to do business" referring to gypsy as Mrs Gypsy must be to show us how tough you are...Grow up

Increasing the tax again? Where is this heading? Will car ownership become a luxury? How are we going to grow as a developed nation with rates like that? I am already considering buying a used car, I hope there won't be any tax increase there too.