Michigan Votes Forum

 another simple question.

i'm interested to hear your views.

LOL! No your not, you're interested in giving yours.

 so why haven't i? and while we are at it, why haven't you? don't you have an opinion as to what patriotism is?

 some would define patriotism as the love of and devotion to one's country, and the willingness to make sacrifices for that country.

Patriotism: "The last refuge of the scoundrel."

gypsy:

Patriotism: "The last refuge of the scoundrel."

 That is incorrect. You confuse nationalism with patriotism.

Nationalism is the perversion of the virtue of patriotism.

In anycase this thread is pointless.

In reply to the question, "What is patriotism".

It does not require an opinion, it requires a definition, and that can be found in a dictionary.

Pffft !   Waste of time.

uber-liberal:

 some would define patriotism as the love of and devotion to one's country, and the willingness to make sacrifices for that country.

 Not bad  Uber/Crazyc,  best answer you have ever given.

 so you're paranoid too... i wouldn't have thought it.

TrueBlue:

gypsy:

Patriotism: "The last refuge of the scoundrel."

 

 That is incorrect. You confuse nationalism with patriotism.

Nationalism is the perversion of the virtue of patriotism.

Thank you for explaining the point I was making. To some it would not be quite so obvious.

 it's amazing how often you've commented on this pointless thread, tb.

 does patriotism mean fealty to the government as opposed to fidelity to the government? does it mean absolute obedience? does it mean total sacrifice of everything you own and hold dear to the government? does it even mean allegience to the government.

 Quit bitching and start acting - There are 100's of these all over the nation. Put your ass in gear and get one going for the areas in MI.

I would but the b_itch killed my job and now I live it FL.

http://www.reteaparty.com/
www.teapartyrevolution.com
http://newamericanteaparty.com
http://www.taxdayteaparty.com

 already am. thanks. i am seriously considering moving south myself. my job is hanging by a thread. every new tax is a couple more layoffs.

till then, we may as well engage the left in a few 'thought experiments'.

 Thought experiments my a_ss. The country has HAD IT with these nit wits. Dem's, repub's - its all the same CRAP. We're MAD AS HELL and we're not gonna take it anymore. NO more talk. Action baby, action.

The're yapp'in in your left ear while their hands are RIPPING off of our OWN money, posessions, and all of our childrens money and future. BS! Grow a pair and give them a swift kick in the a_ss.

Lets see if the MSM covers the over 150 tax day rallies. Doubt it, scumbags. As one famous movie put it "your not going to figure out you have a problem until its swims up and bites you on the A_SS"

Consider this a gash!

 viva la revolution.

 that must make socialism the ultimate perversion of patriotism.

 patriotism is doing what is good for the country as a whole, not your particular little slice of the country. it means making sacrifices for the good of the country, not the good of any one group. this sacrifice is freely given by patriots every day. as evidenced by our all volunteer military, our incredible donations to charity by ordinary citizens, and by our willingness to help others in need.

it should not need to be mandated by law, but should remain guided by the individual. sacrifices for the good of others also requires that those who benefit from the sacrifices do what is necessary for those sacrifices to not to have been made in vain.  

 I'm baaaccckkk ...

Take a look at this website and you will see what one side of patriotism stands for.

http://oathkeepers.blog.com/