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  • 01-01-2001 12:00 AM

    2008 Senate Bill 1360 (Exempt vacation home from school operating tax )

    Introduced in the Senate on May 28, 2008

    Click here to view bill details.
  • 06-02-2008 11:28 PM In reply to

    tax on vacation home

    I think it is about time this was done.
  • 06-02-2008 11:37 PM In reply to

    huh?

    exempt vacation homes from a local property tax? this is a hare-brained idea. non-homestead property owners should not be burdened with property tax rates that exceed those on homestead property -- the kind of tax legitimized by overwhelming passage of Proposal A in 1994. that inequity should be corrected. but creating this new inequity this is not the way to correct the inequity created by Prop A.
  • 06-03-2008 6:52 AM In reply to

    Out of state owners

    Does this mean that out of state people will be able to buy the remainder of our lake frontages etc for vacation homes etc, live here and spend their money locally only part of the year, and recieve full time protection etc? Will a rental property be exempt if they just call it a vacation home?
  • 06-03-2008 7:02 AM In reply to

    Money for schools

    Has Senator Kahn proposed a way to compensate local school districts for the loss of income this proposal would cause if passed? My kids will be in crowded classrooms taught by teachers shuffled into courses they are less experienced at teaching due to staff being cut or pushed into retirement just so the district can come closer to having a balanced budget for next year. I hate to think what would have been necessary had we not passed the non-homestead millage renewal this spring.
  • 06-03-2008 7:19 AM In reply to

    Another Great Idea

    There is no reason that I should pay twice the taxes that my neighbor does just because we are only there on weekends. During the week we don't use any services yet are punished with double the tax bill. As long as it's not a business or rental property then the tax rates should be the same for all.
  • 06-03-2008 8:48 AM In reply to

    Argh

    I love reducing taxes, but not by making inequalities. I can't wait to vote Kahn out after the latest round.
  • 06-03-2008 9:23 AM In reply to

    Even the

    business owner should pay the same..
  • 06-03-2008 9:27 AM In reply to

    inequalities.???

    Since when is you stealing my money equal? If you pay 20 mils per thou and I pay 46 mils how can this be equal? Please explain this new math to me.
  • 06-04-2008 7:38 AM In reply to

    Ok let's not fight

    Let's pay school tax on our 2nd homes but allow homestead tax on 2 properties to be fair.
  • 06-08-2008 8:50 AM In reply to

    No job in Michigan

    Of course, I could always lease that second house that I'm holding (can't sell it!). Then, I could turn around and sell it for a loss (investment property gone bad-tax break). Of course, that would lower the value of the neighbor's houses. Theoretically, over time the homeowners in my old neighborhood could appeal their current assessments. This all has a spiraling effect. Of course, had there been jobs in Michigan in the first place, I never would have left my house. If I could be assured of a second house not being taxed at a higher rate, I might consider keeping it--visiting Michigan (my true home) whenever possible, pumping tax dollars into the local economy when I'm there, and moving back into the same house when I retire or the job prospects improve (I'm not holding my breath on the latter). There are more people like me than you know.
  • 06-08-2008 9:04 AM In reply to

    My kids attend school where there is a class cap of 20 students (k-3)

    Perhaps if educators in Michigan thought seriously about modernizing benefits, how school funding is channeled to local districts, and the very realistic consequesnces of too good to be true retirement benefits, the state could think about capping class sizes. A concept that is far beyond Michigan's grasp.
  • 06-08-2008 9:53 AM In reply to

    Jenny...

    jenny has just endorsed the muslim. Great, now he has no chance. Why would she think anyone cares who she endorses???? She is the kiss of death.
  • 06-08-2008 11:20 AM In reply to

    NOT too good to be true benefits for number of hours

    Give me a break. We rarely take lunch that doesn't involve student contact, teacher meetings, parent meetings, or principal meetings, parent phone calls, etc. . Going to the bathroom is a huge deal. Bladder infections run wild in public schools. I just spent Friday evening with my student until his mother returned from work at 5:30 because he was scared to death of the tornado watch, crying and new to our country from Mexico. He couldn't fully understand the warnings on tv and had nowhere safe to go during the warning that eventually came. Teachers do their fair share. They step up to meet more than academic needs. They are professionals with a good understanding of what the job entails, not constant clockwatchers. They work many hours outside of contract time to get the job done, especially in low income areas. They spend their own money like NO OTHER profession that I've ever heard of in my experience. The tax break on materials is appreicated but a fraction of what we end up spending on materials out-of-pocket, postage, phone/communication costs, clothing children in need of the VERY BASICS for survival and learning, etc. The job is not just 8-4, folks and curriculum. That's just when my body is physically there. Above and beyond the benefits, I know of VERY few teachers that don't have to work a 2nd or 3rd job or have a small business or deal in real estate to MAKE teaching work financially for the average family. I've worked in a professional job that 20 years ago was male dominated, and it was a pretty gosh darn good gig compared to what I see as the demands of teaching. IF teaching were a male dominated career, things would be a lot different. No doubt about it. These things being debated and questioned would be non-issues. It's just a fact. They wouldn't put up with it, frankly. I don't know how many times I have said or thought, "this would never happen" in said male dominated field. People were treated MUCH better. Sorry. It was UNHEARD OF for an employee to spend a penny on something needed to do the job. I mean, if you used too many stickies, the officer manager might have a little hissy fit, but that's it. And the benefits were comparable to teaching. AND the number of years needed for the career were the same. The hours and demands less, the respect as a human being, MORE. I put up with some things in teaching that I feel should be reformed because I care about children and that's where I think I belong, but I am not blind to injustice. I work to reduce costs and maximize efficiency. Energy costs, for example. I think the next step should be new buses with better gas mileage. This is Michigan for goodness sake. Get with Detroit and contract a better bus, OR go to Japan if that's what is needed. We're a global economy, WELL, get better buses that are better for the environment, model sustainability for our students and reduce cost long term. Benefits are just one piece in this education puzzle. What can the state do maximize ENERGY COSTS? Geothermal energy, solar, wind cooperatives. Some districts are cooperating with energy purchase costs. All of them should be. We need leaders in Michigan ready to step up to the plate on this one. If the new energy bill passes, then schools will be paying less for energy on top of a whole new game plan in the types of energies being built in new schools and replaced in older ones. Perhaps getting energy smarter is the alternative to slashing benefits, and more WIN-WIN for all stakeholders in terms of family budgets and environmental sustainability. REDUCE ENERGY COSTS, REDUCE TRANSPORTATION COSTS. Those are two heavy-duty budget items, I believe. Hope about buses with huge solar panels ontop. So what if it doesn't exists. Make is so. We are Michigan. I just saw a scooter on tv TODAY run by solar and wind power. Let's get with it, please. Please forgive any typos as for some reason it is difficult to see the text below the picture of the Capitol Building? Strange.
  • 06-08-2008 11:22 AM In reply to

    Obama is not a Muslim, geez.

    What rock have you been hiding under?
  • 06-08-2008 11:25 AM In reply to

    Wouldn't there be COSTS for determining if REALLY vacation

    home? Michigan doesn't need this right now--a BLOW TO ECONOMY.
  • 06-08-2008 11:26 AM In reply to

    Wish I lived where I could vote him out.

    lol
  • 06-08-2008 11:29 AM In reply to

    Sorry for your luck. Try Career Builder online.

    Good luck.
  • 06-08-2008 11:40 AM In reply to

    I can see increasing my energy cost to help environ., NOT THIS BILL

    though.
  • 06-08-2008 12:23 PM In reply to

    You missed the point

    I already have a good paying job--it's not in Michigan--I love what I do--I love Michigan. Sorry you misunderstood.
  • 06-08-2008 12:58 PM In reply to

    Good Point

    “Obama is not a Muslim, geez. [by Anonymous Citizen on June 8, 2008] … What rock have you been hiding under?” It’s good that someone has corrected the record on this. But the question remains, does it matter (to anyone except bigots)? And why bring it up in the first place (unless one is trying to appeal to bigotry, one way or another)?
  • 06-08-2008 3:24 PM In reply to

    Sure

    Go ahead, you can ride your "scooter" to work in Jan. Idiot. I lost my pension - my job, my house. and you want me to pay for these ass of "ideas" while you cart off (or would that be scooter off) with what is left of my once retirement fund? Go f_ck yourself bi-tch!
  • 06-09-2008 7:30 AM In reply to

    Wrong Again

    you say “Obama is not a Muslim" The truth...Once a muslem always a muslem. This is not a religion and it's not something you can just quit, even so, I think this so called church in chicago is probably just as dangerous.
  • 06-09-2008 7:35 AM In reply to

    It's Scary That You Teach

    "I think the next step should be new buses with better gas mileage." Maybe we can just repeal the laws of physics. It takes energy to push a 10 ton box filled with kids down the road. If you want better mileage then get the dems to quit passing stupid emissions laws that do nothing but make the mileage go down.
  • 06-09-2008 7:36 AM In reply to

    Thats The Best News I've Heard All Week

    ....
  • 06-09-2008 9:03 AM In reply to

    Bigotry

    Is an ugly thing. And exactly what is wrong with anyone being a Muslim?
  • 06-09-2008 10:36 AM In reply to

    Huh?

    "And exactly what is wrong with anyone being a Muslim?" Besides the fact that they want everybody to convert or die I guess it's just a bunch of peace loving folks. They do seem to be involved in the vast majority of unnatural death in this world and have parties in the street when they wipe a bunch of us off the planet.
  • 06-09-2008 12:23 PM In reply to

    Muslims

    Not all muslims are terrorists BUT all terrorists are muslims. Hang em all
  • 06-17-2008 11:16 AM In reply to

    Pay Up Sucker

    This is stupid. I have a vacation home and I pay my taxes. Where is the State going to find the money to make up the lost revenue? What about vacant land? Pay the taxes on your vacation homes!! If you can't afford it. Sell the place.
  • 06-17-2008 12:07 PM In reply to

    Answers

    "Where is the State going to find the money to make up the lost revenue?" First answer...I don't really give a rats patoot. Second answer...Duh, how about we cut the size of this bloated goat we call government?
  • 06-17-2008 1:49 PM In reply to

    Homestead

    The only reason you pay less at home is because the State gave you a break on your homestead. Quit your crying and pay your taxes. Be happy that you got a discount on your house instead of crying that you should get two exemptions! If your vacation home neighbor decide to buy a second home in the neighborhood you live, he would not get the exemption there... It works fine the way it is. Own as many homes as you want but you only avoid the 18 mills on your principal residence.
  • 06-18-2008 7:29 AM In reply to

    Spoken Like

    a True Lib/Dem/Socialist. Gotta soak it to those that you percieve as the evil rich. Did it ever occur to you that the government might be taking too much of our money? I tought not. Keep drinking the lib/dem kool aid and don't take any responsibility for yourself, keep hammering those rich folks that employ you and let me know how it works out for you.
  • 06-19-2008 12:21 PM In reply to

    Long Rev

    Where is the state going to get the "lost" revenue? ITS NOT LOST< ITS STILL RIGHT HERE IN MY POCKET! When this sorry as_s excuse for a MI govt gets their chubby commie crooked corrupt criminal meat hooks on it is when it is TRUELY LOST!
  • 07-24-2008 8:07 AM In reply to

    Re:I love reducing taxes, but not by making inequalities.

    This would make things more equal. Right no I pay twice as mush as my neighbor because I don't live there. Please explain how this is equal? Also, since I don't live there except on weekends I don't use any services, my kids don't go to school there and I'm not allowed to vote there (so it's taxation without reresentation). Again, explain your idea of "equal" to me.
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