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  • 01-01-2001 12:00 AM

    2008 Senate Bill 1087 (Impose restrictions on citizen’s initiative signature gathering )

    Introduced in the Senate on February 12, 2008

    Click here to view bill details.
  • 02-19-2008 2:11 AM In reply to

    wctaxpayers

    Could you please submit your resignation.
  • 02-19-2008 9:06 AM In reply to

    This Proposal

    Would ensure that "citizen initiatives" really are citizen initiatives, and not crackpot ideas being pushed by well funded outside interests. The idea is a sound one.
  • 02-19-2008 9:21 AM In reply to

    You Better Quit

    Drinking the kool-aid. This is only to keep these mental midgets firmly entrenched at the public teat. If you think that they are making it harder to get rid of them because of "crackpots" then I guess that I am a card carrying crackpot. You, on the other hand are a card carrying "usefull idiot". Seek help for your addiction to nannyism.
  • 02-19-2008 9:30 AM In reply to

    Great Idea to Keep Down the Serfs

    ... we wouldn't want ordinary people to rise up against their lawful masters, would we?

     

  • 02-19-2008 10:42 AM In reply to

    Don't Forget

    to take away all thier guns also. That'll teach them uppity voters. Who do they think they are anyhow.
  • 02-19-2008 1:06 PM In reply to

    Clearly,

    they he does not want the citizens to get in the way of his government.
  • 02-19-2008 2:00 PM In reply to

    Tar and feather them

    So they want to make it harder for citizens to petition their government. This guy should be run out on a rail. Three words...part time legislature.
  • 02-19-2008 3:16 PM In reply to

    As Noted Before

    This proposal does nothing more, and nothing less than to help ensure that Michigan "citizen initiatives" really are initiated and pursued by Michigan citizens, and not well-funded outside agitators and interests and their hirelings. That cannot be harmful to democracy in the state.
  • 02-19-2008 4:52 PM In reply to

    all this bill does is

    re-state as illegal what is already illegal in michigan. it also appears to TRY and correct some grammar in the legislation. it (tries to) restrict how and when and where and from whom signitures can be gotten. this CANNOT be a good thing, as each citizen is allowed to particpate in this initiative process. it places penalties for 'more signatures than there are electors' several times. this means that if you are not registered to vote, you don't count for initiatives. THAT is a bad precedent. it shows that those who DON'T participate in the 'politics as usual' are disregarded for citizenship. CHOOSING not to participate in the 'electorial process' shouldn't preclude someone from giving his or her opinion. yes, voting is a right and a privelege, and all are encouraged to vote, but those who CHOOSE not to participate are no less citizens than those who CHOOSE TO. this bill would make them so. THAT'S why i oppose it.
  • 02-20-2008 7:20 AM In reply to

    Bull Puckey

    You Are Wrong again libby. Why do you want to take away my right to throw the bums out? Sounds to me like you are either, one of the politicians or one of their lackeys.
  • 02-20-2008 9:19 AM In reply to

    It Bears Repeating

    That this proposal will help ensure that "citizen initiatives" in Michigan really are initiated and pressed by Michigan citizens, rather than by well-heeled outside interests and agitators like the people who brought us the failed term limits experiment. It helps ensure that the grass roots movements shaping our laws and constitution really are Michigan roots. (signed) A Conservative Taxpayer For Responsible Government
  • 02-20-2008 1:51 PM In reply to

    does it MATTER who

    starts a petition to get government to finally do some GOOD WORK? every citizen who who looks at it has the opportunity to DECIDE whether or not to put his or her signature on it. don't you trust the citizens of michigan to make the RIGHT decision? or do you believe that they will follow blindly, doing exactly what they are told by their union reps?
  • 02-20-2008 1:55 PM In reply to

    Yes,

    It does matter who starts a petition labeled as a "citizens' initiative." If it is sponsored and pushed by non-citizen -- outside -- agitators, it really is not a citizens' initiative at all.
  • 03-16-2008 1:56 PM In reply to

    Equal Representation

    This bill is meant to further assure equal represntation through out the entire state, not just the areas of high density"cities" where the concentration of siqnatures live. Suppor this bill in and support theentire state of Michigan. Special interest groups will no longer be able to target a few large cities to gather enough signatures for an initiative.
  • 04-24-2008 12:05 AM In reply to

    Interesting Idea

    Interesting idea Senator Jansen. How about we apply it to the Michigan Senate too? No legislation may be passed unless a majority of representatives from several regional demographic areas all approve of the same legislation at the same time? No? Doesn't make sense for voters either.
  • 04-24-2008 12:33 AM In reply to

    Someone send Sen. Mark Jansen packing!!!!!

    We all know what Senate Bill 1087 (Impose restrictions on citizen’s initiative signature gathering.) Don't we Senator Mark Jansen? It's about a student's endeavor with the help of Ward Connorly to do away with Affirmative Action. The voters successfully voted out Affirmative Action and your SB 1087 is meant to keep such a similar iniative from succeeding again. Anyone from out-of-state who wants to help the citizens defeat such an unconstitutional law should be able to help do so without interference from our legislators who have sworn an oath to protect our constitutional rights. Give me another Ward Connorly any day. Someone should send Sen. Mark Jansen packing!!!!!

     

  • 04-24-2008 9:34 AM In reply to

    Bull Puckey

    If it's a good idea and I want to sign a petition then I really don't care if the person who came up with the good idea lives in Detroit, Toledo or Fort Lauderdale. Stop trying to take away our rights. you already have most of our money.
  • 04-24-2008 9:46 AM In reply to

    It Bears Repeating Again

    That this proposal will help ensure that "citizen initiatives" in Michigan really are initiated and pressed by Michigan citizens, rather than by well-heeled outside interests and agitators like the people who brought us the failed term limits experiment. It helps ensure that the grass roots movements shaping our laws and constitution really are Michigan roots. (signed) A Conservative Taxpayer For Responsible Government
  • 04-24-2008 11:54 AM In reply to

    if you have to keep

    repeating it, mr. liberal, that means that the REAL CONSERVATIVES didn't agree with you the first twenty times you said it, and they STILL don't agree with you now.
  • 04-24-2008 1:41 PM In reply to

    Excellent Idea

    Down and out with the Carpetbaggers!
  • 04-24-2008 2:08 PM In reply to

    yeah, let's throw those

    know nothing new york liberal union bosses right out of michigan. let's run those left leaning out of town democrat political lobbyists trying to remove our rights and freedoms out on a rail. while we are at it, let's send that neo-communist sorry excuse for a governor back to canada.
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