Michigan Votes Forum

You are right about their divide and conquer principle. They have fooled us over and over. The whole conservative and liberal thing is a trick to divide us. These idiot politicians are mostly globalists who have absolutely no loyalty to our country. They pretend to be so different, but they are both working for a New World Order. The liberals get the socialism programs in place and the neocons get the police state stuff in place. They divide us with racial issues like whites against blacks and mexicans against white, etc. They get us side-tracked on what may be important issues - and they are, but they use these things to divide us and to get our focus off of the really important things like the soveriegnty of our country. They put phoney conservatives on the radio like Sean Hannity & Rush who may talk about some valid issues, but they want our focus off of the truth about how they are turning us into the North American Union right now and already have designed our new currency the Amero. They brainwash the sheeple by calling us conspiracy theory waccos. People listen and repeat the returic they hear. Monkey see, monkey do! These people deny the North American Union, while at the same time they have their own websites talking about it! Even the Council on Foriegn Relations has a document on their website - Building a North American something or other. I think abortion is another trick of these globalists, which is population control. If people knew the real agenda, they may change their position.

Ron Paul is not a globalist. Help us take back our country from the liberals and neocons. He wants to do away with the federal reserve, which is not federal and there is no reserve! There may not even be any gold in Fort Knox. The federal reserve is a group of central bankers, primarily not even Americans. They have absolutely no loyalty to our country. The country is turning into a socialist/facist country and we have been asleep. We are like the frog in the boiling water. It's time to jump out of the pot before they kill us. It is so much worse than people could even imagine. Don't trust our news media for any truth except maybe the latest about OJ, Michael Jackson & Brittany Spears and real news like that. It is National Inquirer tv with absolutely no important news and people are falling for it. They have done many "false flag" events in America and many other countries. Research it. Go to youtube and watch Freedom To Facism. Watch Loose Change. Watch EndGame. Ron Paul has been number one in almost all the people polls, but not in our media. He has been cheated in their polls. There has already been much election fraud. Really bad in New Hampshire. They block him from debates. They give others 6 minutes to talk and give him 30 seconds - stuff like that. He is a threat to corruption. We need to fight the corruption and save America

I oppose this Bill these decisions should be handeled by the mother, father and the mothers physician.

Thank you so much for putting this out here about (long) planned population control!!! It's so few and far between that I hear anyone else talk about this aspect of abortion. Thanks again!!

You know I was wondering a while back why Sean Hannity would so ardently opposed the poll results coming in showing that Ron Paul had won one of the debates. Then I find out that he had a fundraiser for Giuliani back in late '07. You think these guys are unbiased? Think again. I liken the use of left and right leaning politicians to that of the WWF (wrestling, not wildlife). There's a lot of yelling and a big show, but at the end of the day, they are the same and they're out having a beer together at the local tavern.

A people that kills their own will destroy itself from within. Think about it. This is flesh of our flesh, blood of our blood, cells of our cells. We take a life form and destroy it and in doing so we destroy ourselves.

A people that kills their own will destroy itself from within. Think about it. This is flesh of our flesh, blood of our blood, cells of our cells. We take a life form and destroy it and in doing so we destroy ourselves. God help us. Love life, Cecilia Roccos

I sorry to say that we defend the right of animal, but most forget to defend the right of unborn child. If an animal has the right to live how much more a child has the right to come to this world and enjoy it. My personal opinion, killing a 80 years old women, killing a 23 years graduate young man, killing un unborn baby are killing. there is no difference in the eyes of the Creator. Unborn victim is an act of violence.

(Actually, there never has been such a thing -- it is not a child until it is born) in our cultural tradition has no rights. That is as it should be. Humanizing fetuses by calling them children is a purely political contivance intended to deprive the pregnant woman of her rights to control her own body.

CONFESSION OF AN EX-ABORTIONIST By Dr. Bernard Nathanson I am personally responsible for 75,000 abortions. This legitimises my credentials to speak to you with some authority on the issue. I was one of the founders of the National Association for the Repeal of the Abortion Laws (NARAL) in the U.S. in 1968. A truthful poll of opinion then would have found that most Americans were against permissive abortion. Yet within five years we had convinced the U.S. Supreme Court to issue the decision which legalised abortion throughout America in 1973 and produced virtual abortion on demand up to birth. How did we do this? It is important to understand the tactics involved because these tactics have been used throughout the western world with one permutation or another, in order to change abortion law. THE FIRST KEY TACTIC WAS TO CAPTURE THE MEDIA We persuaded the media that the cause of permissive abortion was a liberal enlightened, sophisticated one. Knowing that if a true poll were taken, we would be soundly defeated, we simply fabricated the results of fictional polls. We announced to the media that we had taken polls and that 60% of Americans were in favor of permissive abortion. This is the tactic of the self-fulfilling lie. Few people care to be in the minority. We aroused enough sympathy to sell our program of permissive abortion by fabricating the number of illegal abortions done annually in the U.S. The actual figure was approaching 100,000 but the figure we gave to the media repeatedly was 1,000,000. Repeating the big lie often enough convinces the public. The number of women dying from illegal abortions was around 200-250 annually. The figure we constantly fed to the media was 10,000. These false figures took root in the consciousness of Americans convincing many that we needed to crack the abortion law. Another myth we fed to the public through the media was that legalizing abortion would only mean that the abortions taking place illegally would then be done legally. In fact, of course, abortion is now being used as a primary method of birth control in the U.S. and the annual number of abortions has increased by 1500% since legalization. THE SECOND KEY TACTIC WAS TO PLAY THE CATHOLIC CARD We systematically vilified the Catholic Church and its "socially backward ideas" and picked on the Catholic hierarchy as the villain in opposing abortion. This theme was played endlessly. We fed the media such lies as "we all know that opposition to abortion comes from the hierarchy and not from most Catholics" and "Polls prove time and again that most Catholics want abortion law reform". And the media drum-fired all this into the American people, persuading them that anyone opposing permissive abortion must be under the influence of the Catholic hierarchy and that Catholics in favour of abortion are enlightened and forward-looking. An inference of this tactic was that there were no non- Catholic groups opposing abortion. The fact that other Christian as well as non-Christian religions were {and still are) monolithically opposed to abortion was constantly suppressed, along with pro-life atheists' opinions. THE THIRD KEY TACTIC WAS THE DENIGRATION AND SUPPRESSION OF ALL SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION I am often asked what made me change my mind. How did I change from prominent abortionist to pro-life advocate? In 1973, I became director of obstetrics of a large hospital in New York City and had to set up a prenatal research unit, just at the start of a great new technology which we now use every day to study the fetus in the womb. A favorite pro- abortion tactic is to insist that the definition of when life begins is impossible; that the question is a theological or moral or philosophical one, anything but a scientific one. Foetology makes it undeniably evident that life begins at conception and requires all the protection and safeguards that any of us enjoy. Why, you may well ask, do some American doctors who are privy to the findings of foetology, discredit themselves by carrying out abortions? Simple arithmetic at $300 a time, 1.55 million abortions means an industry generating $500,000,000 annually, of which most goes into the pocket of the physician doing the abortion. It is clear that permissive abortion is purposeful destruction of what is undeniably human life. It is an impermissible act of deadly violence. One must concede that unplanned pregnancy is a wrenchingly difficult dilemma, but to look for its solution in a deliberate act of destruction is to trash the vast resourcefulness of human ingenuity, and to surrender the public weal to the classic utilitarian answer to social problems. AS A SCIENTIST I KNOW, NOT BELIEVE, KNOW THAT HUMAN LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION Although I am not a formal religionist, I believe with all my heart that there is a divinity of existence which commands us to declare a final and irreversible halt to this infinitely sad and shameful crime against humanity

What has killed 48,000,000 Forty Eight Million Americans in the last 33 years? This is about 75 times more than all the soldiers lost in all the wars we have ever fought including WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Korea… 1-Obesity ? 2-Drunk Driving ? 3-Cigarettes ? 4-Drug Abuse ? 5-Abortion ?

"Actually, there never has been such a thing -- it is not a child until it is born" I would love for you to have watch a child half way out with legs kicking have it's skull punctured and brain sucked out and say that. You are sick. Why are all the people that are for killing babies already born?