Michigan Votes Forum

This draconian ripoff of the people needs to be repealed and force the imperial state government to refund all illegally gotten booty with interest. All you dems/libs that think they are looking out for you should really look into who these laws hurt the most. Then lets get into the dems/libs stopping oil drilling to run up the prices, who does this hurt the most? The dems/libs/socialists/union bosses have been screwing the little guy for a long time and you usefull idiots keep voting for more. Pathetic

I've been hit with the DRL twice and refuse to pay it due to it's unconstitutionality. In speaking with several city, county and state police officers and district judges they all agree that the law is not fair and call it double dipping by the state, unfortunately it is the law.

stop breaking the law and u wont have to pay. drive with your insurance. if u cant afford it then u dont need to drive obviously. ride the bus. if your drunk. there are TAXIS!! call a friend, if you get caught and pulled over it's YOUR fault. you should be appy you didnt kill or hurt someone. get a clue, and stop blaming your wrong doings on the state.

all of you complaining you cant afford to pay. stop breaking the law and you wont have to. instead of blogging maybe you should be out looking for a JOB! :]

after all, if you have nothing to hide why don't you want to let the good officer look through your house? With folks like you allowed to vote we are probably doomed. The idiots have taken over the asylum.

to spell. and "you should be appy" that we don't lock up idiots anymore.. Hmmm, Maybe we need to get back to the good old days.

 Ok some people can spell better than others !! Who cares !!

Anyone know if the  Michigan Driver Responsibility Law Petition is still active ??

 This to me is really  something to keep "people"  behind not only are we in a recession but it is hard enough to pay a ticket which don't mean anything, anymore being charged those fees are not realistic you can't jump out there to that level unless you start from the bottom and then we can meet you half way my suggestion is putting laws that designed to take money from tax payers should be eliminated until we get the economy back on track  like at this point I can't afford my car note and the drivers responsibility one has to go.

i think the approach with a petition is the way to go, with an initiative petition it requires 304,101 signatures. i think this current petition that is available to sign is not the correct way to approach them. it is clear to me that he 8th amendment which states, excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. its clear to me right there that the responsibility fee is considered an excessive fee. here is the definition of excessve: exceeding  what is usual, proper, necessary, or normal. also the double jeopardy clause of the 5th amendment. we need to assemble a group of us to come up with ideas about writting a petition and also get volunteers to do foot work, im willing to take part in all events to take place. message me. this is one step closer to gaining our freedom back

The approach with the petition is the way to go. There is no other fair right way. Tickets are just those, (Tickets). When is taking too much the issue? This is why taking over the limit for fines that people are paying for anyway. That is why a person pays their money to a courthouse- for the retribution so they can get back on their feet. That is expensive and can cost a lot. It takes your life right away what you are doing! I have known those who lost their HOMES for you too!!!! Jennifer Granholm was to blame! Nobody in their right mind should suffer that badly. This was just your rotten way to watch people die!

I agree.  It is not only a 6th amendment violation as it is only triggered in response to existing offenses you have already been fined for and had your day in court, but it is a violation of due process in that you have no day in court and are in essence being 'found guilty' before the fact of something you haven't done based on the fact they allege you 'may' do it which is a clear violation of due process which is protected by both the 5th and 6th amendments.

Agatha09:

There is no other fair right way

Constitutional challenge...  it only takes one.