Michigan Votes Forum

'let the prisoners, innocent or guilty, serve their time.' how does an INNOCENT man get prison time in this state? is michigan THAT corrupt? why do you allow THAT kind of corruption to exist and to flourish? do the people of michigan SUPPORT that kind of corruption?

questions? doesn't anyone have the common courtesy? posters here would rather make outrageous, unsubstantiated statements and have them be taken as the truth. several times i have read about 'innocent people in jail'. please explain to me how michigan figured out a way to accomplish this feat despite the existance of the united states constitution. i understand that the law enforcement arms of the various state agencies care not one whit for the constitution, as it is a hinderance in it's attempts at revenue collection. so please fill me in on the methods they use, and the victims they abuse.

okay first of all if i was trying to get reelcted why on earth would i let inmates out? Just wanted to mention democrat in some negative form didn't you? Next, this bill just doesn't let inmates go they have to EARN it, and furthermore it just earns them five days off of every month with no tickets. Which may i add you can recieve for anything even having a button of your uniform undone. Most importantly YOU are one of the problems of the state deficit, those who followed Engler over a cliff with the joke of TIS without realizing the long term effects of your actions. Out of the great lakes states, we incarcerate at a much higher rate, for much longer terms, and then to top it off we have a parole system that unlike other states feels over and above the judge and the probability scores, and in turn people keep going in with few coming out and you are surprised that there is now a money problem with the mdoc? And it has nothing to do with the longer terms of TIS? And it has nothing to do with the fact that 40% of inmates in mdoc are clearly over their minimums, in for nonviolent crimes, and many of whom are first time offenders with no tickets and a low probability score for reoffense? I guess none of these has to do with the current problems...oh yeah i forgot it must be a democratic conspiracy.....give me a break...it's old, tired, uneducated, and frankly absurd but what do i expect?

Hello, I agree with the house bill totally.

I would just like to make a quick comment on here about the person who likes to argue that most to all people go back to prison... Yes people have choices to make, but often times people we consider "criminals" make poor choices, in a society such as ours, the best thing isnt always the easy thing, and some people make a poor choice.. not a mistake, you are correct on that, and please dont act like you are so perfect that you have NEVER done anything wrong. Just for the record my brother was in prison for almost 7 years for uttering and publishing, now theres a girl that lives in our town that smashed her infants head in with her foot and killed the baby and served less time then my brother did.. our judical system is very very very messed up. One more thing for the record, my brother was released from prison 5 years ago, and he has not committed a new crime, and he won't. He very much enjoys his freedom, so therefor some people just make BAD CHOICES.... lighten up a little and before you worry about other peoples lives and talking down on their loved ones, take a little look in the mirror and make sure you dont have any demons reflecting back. ~To those of you that have loved ones in prison, be strong, once they are home nothing else will matter, and as long as your their to support them and really see them through, they will be staying where they belong and thats home with you~ ~Julie

to bad your plea will go unheard because some hard head people that post hear refuse to see any problems with the justice system , with the mdoc, or with blaming and harrassing inmates loved ones on here.

ALL go back to prison. just one out of every two. there has to be a reason for this. either 1. they cannot help themselves, they MUST go back to prison. 2. they WANT to go back to prison. either way, the rate of recidivism is GOING UP. it could be that THEY BELIEVE that prison is the RIGHT PLACE FOR THEM TO BE.

geez do you not understand how hard it is for a felon to find a job, in a state especially that regular folks have trouble. The felony is just one more thing to disqualify them even if they are skilled. Is it the employers fault, NO that is not what i am saying, what i am saying however is that until we map out how to involve these inmates back into the workforce there will continue to be a return rate. And how sad would it be if someone had it so bad out here that they wanted to go back to a place where they have three meals? How sad would it be if the court system incarcerated for such long periods of time for things that other states do not, and an inmate becomes accustomed to prison life and has lost family, and feels like his only home is prison?? The point is Mr.Sarcastic its obvious you just post here to bait and criticize not to FIND A SOLUTION, therefore you should be ignored. I don't see you offering up any solutions for how to help the inmates not return, or for the state to pay for the mdoc in its current state, so right now you are just part of the problem,I on the other hand would like to be part of the solution.

The BIBLE says you do not bear false judgement on someone unless you have been in all the court proceeding then you have no right to tell this person that there loveone dont care about them because they made a wrong judgement on something it is no are place to to judge them i'am for the bill to pass and for the ones who just sat in here and put bad things on here about other peoples familys well then you need to go to prison and have someone shove there dick up your butt and make you there woman no one needs to go to prison to have to worrie if they are going to be raped or if they are going to have a good meal if the state could cut the money by letting people out of jail then maybe there would be less crimes so people would be able to have better job and suport there love ones then keep the homeless off the street there is so much by letting people out of jail and prison that we can do for the rest of the people so before you judge someone put your self in there place and then see if you fell the same way.

one sentence liberal rant. full of 'MAYBE' and 'if', but not one punctuation mark. the Bible also says NOT TO SIN. if you don't sin, no one can judge you. but you keep FORGETTING THAT PART.

i bet you do it on a daily basis. Calling someone a name with the intent of degrading that person is also a sin, but you did it in your post. You can't throw rocks if you live in a glass house buddy.

to forgive without cause is also a sin. it's called bearing false witness against the lord. it's one of the things God hates.

there is cause, they are sorry, they have worked hard to show it by acting the right way while incarcerated, and by doing what was asked of them. Trust me if they don't want to do what the guards say then they won't cause they outnumber them. Judgement on others is also one of those things, as you say, God hates. Try again.

judgment has nothing to do with it. bearing FALSE WITNESS does. why do you lie? looking at this from a FREE MAN'S PERSPECTIVE, instead of a PRISONER'S PERSPECTIVE, if they had only DONE THE RIGHT THING IN THE FIRST PLACE, THEY WOULDN'T NEED TO DO THE RIGHT THING IN JAIL. but you will neer see that point of view, you keep demanding that WE all GO TO PRISON to see what it's like there. we KNOW what it's like there. we built it. we paid for it, and we're still paying for it. you, on the other hand, are STAYING THERE AT NO EXPENSE TO YOU. YOU ARE OUR GUEST. try and act like it. or get out and be productive.

of them re-offend within a year? how truely sorry can they be??? not sorry enough.

released would not re-offend, the prison system would be empty in ten years. it is not overcrowded because of truth in sentencing. it's overcrowded because of the high recidivism rate. inmates who cannot keep themselves out of jail keep the cells full. not how long they are sentenced. if they were TRULY sorry, they wouldn't re-offend. they would stay on 'the straight and narrow'. but they DON'T. they re-offend. and quickly. why is that? is it because there are no jobs? no. there are no jobs for anybody, but you don't see the rest of us stealing to make ends meet. is it because the population has a 'beef' against ex-cons? no. prison status is in some communities a resume enhancement. is it because the inmates just can't adjust to life on the outside? no. life is life. if they cannot 'adjust' to life on the outside, why are they so eager to get out? this is a condition we call INSTITUTIONALIZATION. it means that they can only be comfortable in a cell. now, you cure the 44% recidivism rate, and you will cure jail overcrowding in one year.

is it an enhancement? First that was a very ignorant comment, and I can only imagine what community you were talking about. As far as there being "no beef" as you put it, against ex cons you are sadly mistaken and that is proven by you and many others that post on this site, thank you for proving your own point false. Is some of the reoffender rate caused by lack of jobs? ABSOLUTELY and you are a fool for not thinking so. If a felony excludes you from getting a job which you are otherwise qualified for how will you A. fulfill a condition of your parole which is to remain working? B. support yourself without returning to shady behavior in which to do so? No not everyone that loses or cannot find a job commits a crime, most just kill themselves, become homeless, or turn to drugs, and some of the lucky ones have families who can help them. What about those who have no family support. You can say what others should do in any situation but until you have been there you have no idea what you would do. Now i am not under the impression that ALL committ other crimes for this reason alone, there are those who have become institutionalized, and of course none of that could be because of the long years past their minimums that they waited to be paroled now could it? You live with your head in a hole oblivious to many things obvious to some of the rest of us, and I know all I needed to know about you when you made the iffy comment about "certain community".

to answer. In order to answer it you'll have to take a poll of employers willing to hire someone with a felony on their record, then you tell me.

hire people with college on their resume's either. that is called DISCRIMINATION. it's not always right, but it's their right to do. it IS their business. now, if you knew BEFORE you started being a criminal that you couldn't get a job after you started being a criminal, and you continued being a criminal anyway, it doesn't seem to have BOTHERED YOU MUCH, did it? UP UNTIL NOW, that is. now, you KNEW, OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN that YOU wouldn't be able to get a job as a felon. that SHOULD have given you pause, or DETERRED YOU, but it DIDN'T. you were DETERMINED to be a criminal. i think that each and every criminal has faced that same predicament, and laughed it off. now, they aren't laughing. now they are sitting in jail. when they get out (a process which you are trying to accellerate) they KNOW that they won't be able to get a job. all these criminals want all of us law abiding citizens to instantly trust them, and give them a job, to prioritize them over OTHER law abiding citizens, simply because they have made a BAD CHOICE or ten. this is michigan, pal, not SHANGRI-LA. it ain't gonna happen. it ain't SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN. that's part of the PUNISHMENT that society places on criminals. remember, we don't like criminals, so we shut them away from society. what part of that don't you understand. we don't want them near us. they have already PROVEN that they can't be trusted. yet you ask us to not only TRUST THEM, but to put HONEST CITIZENS OUT OF WORK TO ACCOMODATE THEM. quit your whining. you KNEW that this was going to happen. YOU decided to commit crimes anyway. LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES.

in which community is it an enhancement? [detroit. flint. lansing.] First that was a very ignorant comment, and I can only imagine what community you were talking about. [no you can't. you can only imagine every criminal out walking the streets.] As far as there being "no beef" as you put it, against ex cons you are sadly mistaken and that is proven by you and many others that post on this site, thank you for proving your own point false. [there are those who have a 'beef' with ex-cons. they don't like them. they don't trust them. SHOULD THEY??? many business owners have been robbed before. they have been stolen from. they DON'T want to be stolen from again. to invite an ex-con into the 'business family' is an invitation to be ripped off (or worse) again.] Is some of the reoffender rate caused by lack of jobs? ABSOLUTELY and you are a fool for not thinking so. [if a lack of a job is a reason to re-offend, it is a reason to offend in the first place. you don't see the REST OF US doing such a stupid thing, do you? NO.] If a felony excludes you from getting a job which you are otherwise qualified for how will you A. fulfill a condition of your parole which is to remain working? [the condition of parole is to HAVE a job. if you have it, you should be able to keep it. if there are NO JOBS, then YOU DON'T GET PAROLE.] B. support yourself without returning to shady behavior in which to do so? [in one breath, you say that the jails are full of honest, hard working citizens who just fell on 'hard times'. they HAD to commit the crimes they did to put bread in their children's mouths. then in the next breath, you say that if they don't get a job, they will have to 'RETURN to the shady behavior'. make up your mind.] No not everyone that loses or cannot find a job commits a crime, most just kill themselves, become homeless, or turn to drugs, and some of the lucky ones have families who can help them. [so, you are telling me that if i'm out of a job, my ONLY OPTIONS are suicide, homelessness, drug abuse, or sponging off my family or the state??? HOW ABOUT FINDING ANOTHER JOB INSTEAD OF TURNING TO CRIME??? it's what law abiding people DO.] What about those who have no family support. You can say what others should do in any situation but until you have been there you have no idea what you would do. [i've lost jobs. i have NEVER committed a crime, or 'turned to drugs' or attempted to kill myself. i've simply GOTTEN ANOTHER JOB.] Now i am not under the impression that ALL committ other crimes for this reason alone, there are those who have become institutionalized, and of course none of that could be because of the long years past their minimums that they waited to be paroled now could it? [NO. it's because they decided early in life to commit crimes, and they have spent the MAJORITY OF THAT LIFE BEHIND BARS. they have become COMFORTABLE living in a cell. THAT is the definition of institutionalized.] You live with your head in a hole oblivious to many things obvious to some of the rest of us,[maybe thats because it's YOU with your head in a hole.] and I know all I needed to know about you when you made the iffy comment about "certain community". [maybe you should take your head out of your own ass and look around. realize that you are 'part of the problem' from our way of looking at things, not 'part of the solution'. in fact, if YOU hadn't decided to be a criminal, you wouldn't BE in this predicament right now. everyone else, all of us who are NOT in jail, all take responsibility for our own actions, and DON'T COMMIT CRIMES. you have that responsibility FORCED UPON YOU. you don't like the fact that i have brought up all these facts, and spoiled your little sales pitch. you don't like the fact that as long as i keep bringing up YOUR shortcomings, early prison release for your bretheren becomes less and less of a reality. here is another little dose of reality for you. as long as 44% of your bretheren keep re-offending within months of release, paroles will continue to be a rare commodity. either change the behavior that got you into this mess, or live with the consequences of your decisions.]

going to hire another 'EX-CON' again. the last few i hired almost lost me my business. it seems that they were not happy just doing the job i paid them for. they felt they must distribute drugs to the children of michigan using my trucks. they got three of them confiscated, that means i cannot get them back. now, i hired FIVE EX-CONS, and ALL FIVE COMMITTED MORE CRIMES USING MY BUSINESS AS A FRONT. this happened within WEEKS of being hired. that's 0-for-5. not a very good record. do you wonder why nobody wants to hire them? you are not complaining about a societal problem, you are bitching about a SELF INFLICTED WOUND. these criminals did it to themselves, society just reacted to their stupidity.

I am a missionary that works in the prisons with the inmates. I feel such sadness when I read the hateful comments left on this site. What most of you do not understand is that the system failed these prisoners long ago. Most of the inmates come from homes where they were abused and neglected most of there life. Some come from good families that still stand by them and support them however they are in the minority and these prisoners are the ones that have the best chance of getting out and staying out. Because of TIS there is no money to rehabilitate these prisoners. Locking them up for a longer period of time is not going to change the recidivism rate in fact it has made the rate go up. If we can not put programs in place to teach the inmate how to change the behavior while the prisoner is locked up then why do we think they can do it on there own when they are released. These prisoners have no schedule or structure to there day. They can sleep all day and stay up all night if they want to. They have a choice to work or not work. And then we lock them up as long as possible and then let them out and think that they can all of a sudden become responsible and get a job and lead a normal life. TIS is not the answer to the problem and bashing the prisoners loved ones that posts comments on this site is horrible. The prisons should be ran the way the military is ran. Teach these inmates to have some pride in themselves and give them a since of accomplishment. This would cut down on the violence inside the prisons and teach them to work as a team. The state of Michigan will just keep locking more and more people up for a longer and longer period of time. We as the tax payers will be paying for this. Instead of fighting each other why don't we all work together to find a better way to run the prison system.

prisons, not schools. rehabilitation is something that was dreamed about, but never funded. it is a lofty goal, but one that never recieved a dime of funding. if MOST of the people who are in jail were abused when young, why aren't they TURNING IN THEIR PARENTS like they turn in their teachers, ministers, and priests? they don't mind admitting to being abused and molested by THEM, why should being abused and molested by their parents be any different? that tells me that IT REALLY DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY. besides, thousands of people are abused and molested each day, and THEY don't use it as an excuse to commit crimes, they use it as a tool to move on and live their lives. yes, we DO expect the inmate to stand up and be responsible for his actions from the day we let him out of jail. the same thing that is expected of EVERY OTHER CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY. why should THEY be any different? we all have to live by the same rules. if inmates have a hard time living by the rules, it is NO WONDER they can't obey the law. no amount of schooling will change that in a person. no amount of coddling will make that go away. the inmate has to WANT TO CHANGE. he has to have some INCENTIVE to change. recidivism is also called GIVING UP ON SOCIETY. so why, if the inmate gives up on society, shouldn't society give up on him? all you liberals keep talking about what society should GIVE TO THE INMATE. it's not up to society to GIVE THE INMATE ANYTHING. it's up to the inmate to give to society. if he can't, or won't, then he doesn't deserve inclusion into OUR SOCIETY. he can continue to be treated as an OUTCAST. i know that it's a LOT TO ASK, but it's no more, and no less than is asked of every other citizen.

Jobs are not readily available for anyone in Michigan let alone someone who has served time in jail. They can't find a place to live if they can't get a job. The can't eat if they can't find a job. And the list goes on and on.

issue of reoffender rate as an excuse to not pass these bills, since obviously you don't want to hear the solution for it.

three pre-requisites for parole. if they don't have a job, a place to live, and the ability to put food into their own mouths, they DON'T GET PAROLE. you never stop to think that THAT is part of the reason so many get 'flopped'. which honest, law abiding citizens are you going to put out of a job so a criminal can have their job?

I been in trouble lots of times in my life about 10 years ago I sobered up and keep my nose clean.I have a good job take care of my wife and family god has been extremely good to me. The point is everytime I got out of jail I could find work I lived in dumpy rooming houses, city rescue missions ,and ect.But I made due and finially got my act together society is still surpressing me for who I was but I keep plugging along and go foward not looking at Who I was but who I am these guys can find a break if they look the system does need a major overhaul but it's posssible to work with in the system and play by the rules and get from underneath it I hope they continue to look at this legislation and ones like it I am all for releasing non violent crimnals early get them paying taxes in- stead of being a tax burden.

if those NON VIOLENT OFFENDERS would just have become PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS like you, instead of NON VIOLENT OFFENDERS, they wouldn't BE a tax burden.

Another person that thinks he has all the answers but does not have a clue about the facts. Instead of just saying the inmate should be able to do it on there own or society should just throw them away why don't you give some suggestions as to how we can help to accomplish this. It is very evident that the system that is in place is not working. So as you say lets just turn our back on them, well who do you think pays to keep these people locked up. We can not turn our back on them because our tax money is supporting them.

That is wonderful that you were able to get your act together and turn yourself around. You are the type of person people should listen to because you have been there. In your opinion what could the prison system do different to help these offenders get out and stay out the first time instead of returing to the system over and over again before they learn to make it on the outside. I agree with you about the good time coming back but I also think is should be offered to all inmates except the ones doing life. Especially first time offenders they deserve a second chance to show that they have learned there lesson. Good luck to you and hopefully you can give some good advice to inmates that want to turn there life around but just do not know how to do it.

to make it on the outside. they only learn new and better ways to return to the INSIDE. or haven't you figured that out yet?

who obeys laws and stays out of jail does it without anyone else's help. all on their own. without assistance from the government. and to top it all off, they FINANCE the cushy little palaces that your loved ones inhabit. now, before you go about tugging at the heartstrings of the liberals out there, please explain how you plan on keeping someone out of jail who wants to be there?

The goverment does not pay for these "cushy" places!! We do!! So what is the answer to the problem. All I read on this site from the people that oppose this bill is why we should keep the prisoner locked up as long as possible. Ok if that is what you want then give some ideas as to how we are going to finance this. The state in case you have not noticed is in serious financial trouble. If we are going to keep TIS then how are we going to pay for building more prisons and employing more correctional officers? You want to know how? By raising our taxes that is how. So you oppose bringing back good time then do not complain when half our income goes to state taxes to keep these people locked up.

The goverment does not pay for these "cushy" places!! We do!! So what is the answer to the problem. All I read on this site from the people that oppose this bill is why we should keep the prisoner locked up as long as possible. Ok if that is what you want then give some ideas as to how we are going to finance this. The state in case you have not noticed is in serious financial trouble. If we are going to keep TIS then how are we going to pay for building more prisons and employing more correctional officers? You want to know how? By raising our taxes that is how. So you oppose bringing back good time then do not complain when half our income goes to state taxes to keep these people locked up.

total accountability, which will lower the PER INMATE PER DAY COST. this is a figure that is come up with by the legislature to 'COVER EXPENSES'. seeing as those expenses are the 10th highest in the country, i think it's about time we found out what they are. 40 other states do it CHEAPER THAN WE DO. why is that? it CAN'T BE that the 'system' is stealing our money, it MUST BE that the jails are CUSHY. it CANNOT BE that there are too many inmates in the jails, as this is, as the name implies, a PER INMATE fee. as this fee is OVER A HUNDRED DOLLARS A DAY, there has to be something that the INMATES ARE NOT GETTING THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR. one state does the SAME THING WE DO FOR $14.00 A DAY. now, why is that? once we solve this problem, we won't have to release inmates back out among us ever again.

financial trouble because of greed, graft, mismanagement, apathy, stupidity, and the unions. there are other reasons, but these are the biggies. we elect people to 'LEAD', yet we expect(stupidly so) that our elected leaders can ADD AND SUBTRACT. we expect them to look after OUR interests, as we BELIEVED WHAT THEY SAID, AND VOTED FOR THEM, but they don't. we expect them to be able to go from whatever job (usually attorney) and be able to smoothly transition into politics. this is, of course, after spending millions of dollars on getting elected. the problem is, none of them has ever had to make and stick to a budget. none of them has ever been told no when they asked for money. it's about time we cut off their allowance.

breath with these folks they don't get simple math. More inmates coming in + less inmates recieving parole even when LEGALLY ELIGIBLE = MONEY PROBLEMS AND OVERCROWDING. Its simple really. They want to believe that the prisons are cushy so that they can justify cutting from those who aren't even recieving it. Tell me if the $100 is going to the inmate why do i pay for my loved one to see a doc and dentist? Why do i pay for anything other than three kid sized meals a day? Why do i pay for any phone call that he makes? The answer to that is IF it takes $100 a inmate to have a uniform, a cot, a pair of shoes, and three small meals damn i'd say thats really cushy. The point is that even if you cut it will not stop the overcrowding due to overly long sentences(which other states do not have),and this will again lead to overspending in the mdoc which the state can no longer afford. Fix the TIS muck up, fix the overzealous and power hungry parole board, provide job training anything less is just a band aid that will pop loose within months.

that long sentences were what the MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF MICHIGAN ASKED FOR. YOU may not like it, but it's the way it is. lowering the cost per inmate per day is the ONLY WAY to cut expenses without releasing inmates. the rest of the state spent millions of dollars to put inmates behind bars, and we intend to keep them there for their full term. letting inmates go before their sentences are up is called CODDLING. it's letting them off easy. that is not the idea of punishment. the fact that you have to pay for all these things is a function of CORRUPT GOVERNMENT, not truth in sentencing. you are just too thick skulled to understand it. i understand you want your loved one back, but if you couldn't teach him how to behave and stay out of jail before, what makes you think that you can teach him to behave and stay out of jail NOW?

Come on get real!! They have already cut as much as possible from the inmates. They have cut all rehab,all job training,all substance abuse classes,smaller meals & electricity only certain hours of the day. The hundred dollars a day you think goes to the prisoner includes the cost for the facility the guards and all other costs associated with running an institution. The reason the TIS passed was because the people of Michigan thought it would cut the recidivism rate but it has done the exact opposite the rate is higher now than before TIS. So I have news for you this bill is going to pass and the reason why is because TIS is not working and only costing the state millions of dollars that we pay for with our taxes. So if you were not so thick headed you would realize that the only way to keep the state from going bankrupt is to pass this bill. So keep coming on this site and bashing the people that have loved ones locked up and pray that you never walk in there shoes.

Come on get real!! They have already cut as much as possible from the inmates. [you assume that i mean to cut more from the inmates. you are wrong. forty other states do MORE than michigan does with A LOT LESS MONEY. why can't michgian do the same? because they are corrupt.] They have cut all rehab,all job training,all substance abuse classes,smaller meals & electricity only certain hours of the day. The hundred dollars a day you think goes to the prisoner includes the cost for the facility the guards and all other costs associated with running an institution. [then why can alabama do EXACTLY THE SAME THING, including running a capital punishment program, with all the expenses attached to that, for $14.00 a day? why does the state of alabama get so much for so little?] The reason the TIS passed was because the people of Michigan thought it would cut the recidivism rate but it has done the exact opposite the rate is higher now than before TIS. [no, the reason truth in sentencing was passed is because the people of the state of michigan thought that prisoners were getting off far too easy on their sentences. truth in sentencing is about THE LENGTH OF TIME an inmate stays behind bars, recidivism is about how long an inmate stays out before offending again. the two have nothing to do with each other, except that they are both done by inmates.] So I have news for you this bill is going to pass and the reason why is because TIS is not working and only costing the state millions of dollars that we pay for with our taxes. [that is NOT good news. think of how much letting all those inmates go is going to cost this state. yes, YOU will get your loved one back, but only until he cannot control himself once again and goes out and does something that sends him back to his beloved cellmate.] So if you were not so thick headed you would realize that the only way to keep the state from going bankrupt is to pass this bill. [once again, you let your love for your inmate override your common sense. this bill is nothing more than a band-aid, lowering the COST PER INMATE PER DAY is the only way to keep this state from going bankrupt. all releasing them early without solving the recidivism problem first is going to do is add another conviction to their record, it won't keep them out of jail. so, what are you going to do when the recidivism rate climbs again? close another few jails and just stop putting people in prison at all?] So keep coming on this site and bashing the people that have loved ones locked up and pray that you never walk in there shoes. [if presenting the FACTS is bashing, then YES, i will keep bashing. i have only pointed out that your loved one has made a STRING OF BAD DECISIONS THAT SHOWED NO LOVE FOR YOU. and you keep on 'sticking with him' despite the fact that none of his FUTURE decisions is going to involve you either. he has PROVEN that love for you is ONE SIDED. you love him, but he loves to do whatever he has to do to go to prison. you may disagree, but look where he is, and think about where he ISN'T. he IS in prison, he ISN'T with YOU.]