Michigan Votes Forum

but she can't call this bill out of committee. it's stuck there, dead. i wonder what JENNIE'S solution will be?

was coming, but we didn't know THAT THIS POWERFUL of a storm was coming. it picked up two 'CATEGORIES' of wind speed overnight. when we went to bed saturday night, it was a category three, sunday morning, it was a category five. that's what made most people stick around till the last minute. a category three storm hitting can be 'ridden out', where a category five storm hitting should not. other than that... you make some GREAT points.

republicans a sore subject? i survived katrina. i have no problem with what republicans did for new orleans. i have a REAL problem with what the DEMOCRATS did for new orleans. it was a democrat, c. ray nagin, who let people back in TOO SOON after the storm, which got them ALL KILLED. he KNEW there were 22 foot waves bouncing around in the lake, but he let people back in anyway. it was a democrat, c. ray nagin, who told the police department to confiscate legally owned weapons out of law abiding people's houses. it was a demcocrat, c. ray nagin, who STILL hasn't given them back. it was a democrat, who could have authorized the use of city busses, and parish owned school busses to RE-EVACUATE THE CITY, but didn't. now, i don't know why you are so tender about katrina, it didn't effect you in the least. you aren't paying one dime extra in taxes because of it, you haven't lost your job over it, and you weren't inconvenienced in the least by it. you weren't out of lights. you weren't under twenty feet of water. you weren't even damp. you just watched it on the news. by the way, you MIGHT have made a collection for 'HURRICANE RELIEF', and we appreciate it, but you didn't get off your ass and come down to help us rebuild. you didn't even come down for mardi gras. i know a lot of people from up here who DID come with me to help rebuild, but you weren't among us. and i didn't see you there. now, as for the republicans making you nervous, you're on your own. but you can rest your little head more easily, knowing that new orleans is in good hands now and rebuilding is coming along at a good pace.

WXYZ) -- A Detroit police officer could face drunk driving charges after he hit a Macomb County Sheriff's deputy while off duty. The crash happened around 2 a.m. Sunday. The deputy received minor injuries.

i wonder if the DASH CAMERA tapes have been released yet? should be fun to watch play out in the courts, though. i'll bet the two departments are at each other's throats.

have to do with a michigan legislative bill to restore a system of good time credits for people serving time in the state's prisons? can't anyone stay on topic here?

MACKINAC ISLAND, Mich. (AP) - Gov. Jennifer Granholm proposed changes Friday in the way Michigan punishes nonviolent criminals, saying the state is spending too much on prisons and not enough on schools. Granholm called for "safe but cost-effective" criminal justice reforms in a speech during the Detroit Regional Chamber's annual Mackinac Policy Conference. She also asked her audience of roughly 1,700 business and government leaders to support her initiatives for reducing the dropout rate and attracting alternative energy companies. Appearing vigorous and cracking jokes in her first public appearance since undergoing abdominal surgery for a blocked intestine April 29, Granholm acknowledged the state's economy remains anemic. She noted announcements this week that Ford Motor Co. plans layoffs of salaried employees while American Axle and Manufacturing Holdings Inc. is cutting more than half of its U.S. hourly work force. Michigan has lost 330,000 manufacturing jobs since June 2000, more than any other state. "We cannot sugarcoat it," Granholm said. "The question is, what do we do about it?" The Democratic governor said the prison system is taking up an increasingly large share of the state budget. Michigan's prison population has increased 60 percent since 1990. Three of every 10 state employees work for the Department of Corrections, and Michigan imprisons its citizens at the highest rate of any Midwestern state. Granholm made no specific recommendations for sentencing reforms, but spokeswoman Liz Boyd said officials were working with the Council of State Governments on a plan that could include releasing some nonviolent inmates and stepped-up use of alternative punishments. Aware of the political sensitivity of appearing soft on crime, Granholm touted her credentials as a former state attorney general and federal prosecutor. "I am not interested and will not allow violent criminals to be released into our communities, period," she said. "However, there are people who are in the prison system now who could be released safely." Granholm did not say how much money criminal justice reforms could save, but said it could be used to put more police on the streets, reduce the Michigan Business Tax and invest in higher education. "The best (crime) prevention policy is giving kids a good education," she said. Republican legislative leaders voiced skepticism about sentencing revisions during a panel discussion Thursday, saying the problem wasn't the number of Michigan inmates but the cost of running the prisons - including wages and benefits for employees. "If we're going to make reforms, we want to make real reforms," Senate Majority Leader Mike Bishop said. Sen. Buzz Thomas, the minority floor leader, said Granholm's approach made sense but might be a tough sell during an election year. "Nearly half of the prison population suffers from mental illness," said Thomas, a Detroit Democrat. "Many of these people are in there on nonviolent crimes. They would be more humanely served and more cost-effectively served in a mental health treatment facility or some sort of program that gives them an opportunity to manage their illness." A more skilled and better educated work force is also essential for the state economy, Granholm said. While more Michigan students are attending college than ever, too many still believe they can earn a good living without a degree or even a high school diploma, she said. She is pushing for a state fund to establish high schools with smaller student bodies and curricula that would prepare students to fill jobs in growing sectors of the economy. "We have got to attack, declare war, on the dropout problem," Granholm said.

It can be rewritten, and reintroduced.

Do you know me? Do you know what I look like? How do you know I wasn't down there?

And I have been told that it will.

They will be able to earn goodtime credits by going with the program and not breaking rules while in prison.It will give them something to work on and look forward to- many who have no family or friends or outside support.

Its all about a arguement here!

Way to go G-Ma! I have not been on here in over two weeks and just got through reading what you have been going through with theses jerks! When the word "nigger" came out I pretty much knew we had been right all along about them! Its been so long since I heard ANYONE use that term I was shocked!

ignorance:The condition of being uninformed or uneducated. Lacking knowledge or information.

the time. every time i walk through the jails and prisons of this state. it's a term used by inmates. if you haven't heard it, you haven't been truly listening to your loved ones. if you are shocked, you have been living a SHELTERED LIFE. but the poster is right, you HAVE been telling an awful lot of people to JUST SHUT UP. that means that you don't care about their freedom of speech, only your own. that means that THEIR rights are LESS IMPORTANT than YOUR RIGHTS. once again... you have been PROVEN WRONG.

the author, and you for supporting it, doesn't care if NON-VIOLENT INMATES GET GOOD TIME AND VIOLENT INMATES DON'T. it says ALL inmates now... and even though it's DEAD IN COMMITTEE, you haven't stopped supporting it AS IS.

i DO know you, and i'd be able to pick you out of a crowd. we had two hundred fifty people go south with us the last three trips we made. you weren't there. you were up here, dry and comfortable.

TO. simple as that. if you can't READ THE BILL instead of READING THE INTRODUCTION TO THE BILL, then you will accept what anyone on the left says is the truth. now, WHERE DOES IT SAY IN THE BILL THAT ONLY NON-VIOLENT OFFENDERS CAN EARN GOOD TIME? truth is, it doesn't.

changing the subject as soon as she figures out she's losing again. crazycajun just keeps answering HER questions and waiting for her to answer his. so far, it ain't happenin'.

when your own press release doesn't say what the governor plans, because she doesn't know WHAT TO PLAN. it DOES mention APPEARING SOFT ON CRIME as a MAJOR CONCERN. i'll bet she PUNTS and let's the next governor figure this one out.

Are you talking about now???? Once again...just trying to put people down and trying to prove them wrong with YOUR opinions! And AGAIN you have me mixed up with another poster!

you do it all the time. but it's okay for YOU to do it, but NOT for anybody to do it to you... isn't that how liberalism works?

I have not heard it in along time either. Welcome back..

shocked? because somebody used the word NIGGER? or because g-ma has disregarded everyone else's rights? now, how many AFRICAN-AMERICANS has g-ma told to SHUT UP in her life? all the AFRICAN-AMERICANS on this site. all the POLISH-AMERICANS on this site. all the AMERICANS on this site. everybody but you, the troll, and herself. king, queen, and dutchess of communism. ruling from on high... the MOST EQUAL OF THE EQUALS. nice try, though.

With all your dumb statements I have come to understand that you like to hear yourself talk! You must come here several times a day to reread what you post.And if someone does not agree with you than it must be G-Ma posting. I am NOT G-Ma and I think you are one of the BIGGEST JERKS I have seen post here! Go back and look at your posting....Its the same ranting over and over. Sorry for your boring life!

Is this a chat room? Some people seem to think so.........

It will be reintroduced.You think you know it all! It does not state nonviolent/violent, now will you please STOP asking the sane question so you can prove others wrong. You have your answer. NEXT? I am sure you will find something!

Now you have your answer.Stop asking!

YOU are the one who has disregarded everyone else's rights!Name calling and judging other posters because they dont see it like you do. Its a matter of opinion and yours is not the only one here! So....what do you do for a living when you are not on the internet bothering people? You sure dont leave much time for work! And if you say you are at work I sure would not want you to work for me because you cant be doing a good job if you are here all the time following other posters around!

Another unimportant statement put here to TRY to bother other posters!

i'm supposed to be impressed by you? i keep posting because you are still wrong. get it RIGHT and i'll stop.

I hear there are so many females working in the prisons that the prisoners spend most of their nights masturbating while females work. Get rid of the female guards and toughen up the prisons.

YOU keep posting because you have nothing better to do! I cant imagine having a life so boring that I would need to get on the internet and follow others around and TRY to pick a arguement! Cant you find a place to volunteer?

I think Crazycajun, uber-liberal, and the so-called "internet cafe" group have nothing better to do with their lives than come on here everyday, all day and pick fights with anyone who disagrees with their point of view. They think they are all-knowing and are the experts. I find it hard to believe they even have jobs for the amount of time they spend attacking people on this forum and all the others.

HI. I haven't been around for a few days and I see the boys from the internet cafe haven't had much to say. That's good because they never have much of value to say anyways. Has anyone heard when this bill maybe reintroduced? Sandie my grandson did come home. He's doing great,and is already got some part time work lined up. I will keep you posted.Enjoy this hot weather they say we are going to get, I am right in my pool.

I think that is their job to annoy us.

GREAT NEWS! I am so happy he is home! Its a wonderful feeling isnt it? Please tell him there is alot of support out there and to try to get into school and get a trade ASAP.My godson is doing well also and really enjoys the classes he is taking. He is taking culinary arts, hotel and restaurant management and a one year certificate in baking.You enjoy this hot weather also...I wish I had a pool!

WHO posted this???????????????????

Who doesn't understand anything about the prison system.

Has anyone heard when this bill might be reintroduced?