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Latest post 09-25-2012 9:04 PM by victor88. 4,344 replies.
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Anonymous Citizen


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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Aother reason may be.....
because of you or rather the agency of the law.....crooked cops are everywhere and most of them are doing EXACTLY what these inmates do to supplement their meager incomes. Before you say anything, I've seen quite a few personally. There are many that have been on fox 2 news but they are above the law so they still are out trying to catch exactly the kind of people that they are but since they are police it makes it better. Hopefully you don't work for the Detroit Police 40% of the crooks and dealers are right now employed there to lock up the bad people!!!!What a joke!
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Anonymous Citizen


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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because the LAST GOVERNOR was HER.
SHE should have done something in her FIRST term, but she DIDN'T.
she is using POLICE CUTS and PRISON CLOSINGS for political purposes. these cuts infuriate the right wing, and please the left.
they do NOTHING for the current situation except change where the money is going to be spent next year.
this year we MAY save on prison spending, but i doubt it, next year we WILL have to spend more on police.
i notice that none of the DUPLICITOUS departments that DO NOTHING but duplicate ANOTHER DEPARTMENTS WORK are just doing fine and dandy.
there is no talk of closing any of them.
no talk of stopping gun registration, for example, which is a totally unnecessary expense for the state.
no talk of cutting the many unnecessary "regulatory boards" that dot the political landscape.
no talk of getting government out of things it has NO BUSINESS DOING.
cutting police and closing prisons shows a lack of concern for the safety and security of the citizens of this state, but shows a GREAT concern for the CRIMINALS of this state.
all the changes jennie has made so far only benefit the criminals, not the citizen.
now, explain to me how releasing inmates before their sentence, to rob and rape and kill is supposed to HELP michigan.
i can hear it now, residents of other states sitting around discussing vacation plans, and saying....
"oh awchie.... let's go to michigan cuz they dun let the PRISONERS OUT OF PRISON AND FIRED THE STATE POLICE."
"Stifle it, eee-dit."
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Anonymous Citizen


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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i'm still waiting for your
explanation of WHY YOUR LOVED ONE DOESN'T LOVE YOU.
if he did, he would CHANGE his wicked ways for you, wouldn't he?
he would toe the straight and narrow path to keep you by his side, wouldn't he?
the REST of the population does, why doesn't he?
i can see no other motivation to dedicate a substantial portion of one's life to the activities that lead to sleeping next to a man if the GOAL isn't to sleep next to a man.
now, your 'insights' into MY life are comical, but as i am NOT in jail, and your loved one is, your point is moot.
just admit it. he SAYS he loves you, but he kisses his cellmate goodnight, and not you.
i think you need to find somebody who DOESN'T commit multiple felonies. somebody who ISN'T looking at a twenty year stretch for his latest MISTAKE.
just because HE refuses to learn from his mistakes doesn't mean that you shouldn't. learn from YOUR mistakes and move on.
there ARE better people out there. and they ARE NOT found behind bars.
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suppressed american


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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when comming before the parole board you are told..
you have to take these certain corses before you can be paroled. ok...where do you go when there are NO corses available. now wait a minute.... you have to take corses, but, there are no corses available.
DOESN'T THIS SOUND LIKE LANSING, MICHIGANISTAN.
does the right hand really know what the left hand is doing ?????
why don't these stupid people in office quit bulls****** the public. we vote them in to do a job, they don't do thier job. they pussy-foot around when all they have to do is THIER JOB !!!
it should be a law that if you don't show improvment in three months after election, your ass is out on the sidewalk.
all this b.s about i'll vote for your bill if you vote for mine.
hey senators and house reps...grow some balls and get things done. you women senators and house reps do the same. many some of that extra anatomy will help !!!
DO WHAT YOU WERE HIRED TO DO. QUITE MILKING IT !!!
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Anonymous Citizen


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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Why would the whores.....
have to be in Detroit? Are you trying to insinuate something? Sounds like to me you are. People like you with your little snide comments sicken me. Do you think that all inmates are from the city? So the subburbs do not contribute at all to the prison population? LUDICROUS and false. THIS is the problem with Michigan you blame Detroit for all the woes of the state and then you wonder why the citizens of Detroit do not welcome people from the outlying areas with open arms-doesn't make sense. By this comment I guess you also feel that all the whores in this state are in the city of Detroit. Are you stupid, hateful, ignorant, or well one of Imus's kind? There are plenty of unsavory women in the outlying areas as well buddy so quit trying to pretend as if all your country women are innocent because believe me I know more than a few that are not. With that out of the way I will say this what is your proposal to reform the prison system, what do you propose they do when the beds are full by September, how would we build new prisons to accomodate inmates if everyone sits in jail for life for every crime which it sounds like that is what you are proposing when the state is already in debt? Do we cut education which is needed for our children to make this counrty prosperous in the future? Or do we start to do the logical thing and release those who are already over their minimums and are eligible for release anyway-it makes to much sense for some of you to understand. These inmates that she is releasing by the standards of the LAW your LAW the LAW of your country says that at their minimums they are legally allowed to be paroled what part of that do you not understand. The second FACT which is also to easy for you to understand is that these good time credits are FIVE days off of every month ONLY if the inmate is FOLLOWING THE RULES and is not reprimanded which logically speaking is what we hope they will do when they reenter society right? These do not include those with life with no parole, or to those who cut up in prison (which is not that hard to do despite what you might think)and have obviously not learned anything. So instead of following the debt causing system put in place by ENGLER which was TIS replace it with what makes sense first of all, and what is inevitable and by the law legal which is good time.
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Anonymous Citizen


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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No actually he's not right.....
and if you had any knowledge of the prison system or the crooked police or the homosexual prison guards who get off more on the inmates than the inmates do on each other I think you be surprised. Cause its probably your huband or wife who's lusting after the big hairy men inside! The truth hurts but if you can't take it don't dish it. Until you've seen and witnessed things for yourself you don't know what you are talking about!
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Anonymous Citizen


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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once again, name calling..
and false innuendo.
is that all you have to bolster your cause?
let's hear YOUR answer to why criminals re-offend.
as a criminal, you may give some INSIGHT into the thought processes (or lack of them) involved in recidivism.
if you are going to tell me that most criminals intentionally re-offend without giving ANY THOUGHT to the damage they do, or the lives they take, then i DO agree with putting them away till they quit breathing.
now, i HAVE had experience in prisons, but i have seen NO homosexual guards that you speak about.
which prison were YOU in that a guard bent you over and had his wicked way with you?
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Anonymous Citizen


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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None I've never been.....
incarcerated but I have studied it and have heard really good complaints and seen many guards, while visiting, who take a real long time groping the crotch region of the inmate and then smile. If you think that all these men go to prison to be gay, then I would say that the guards must love to work there, stripsearch and look at naked men too, I wouldn't want the job so there has to be something behind it. Getting a paycheck and seeing naked inmates boy they are in heaven!
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Anonymous Citizen


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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first of all I'm not a criminal are you?
cause you seem to have some close knowledge of the wicked ways of getting bent over what's that about fantasy or movie or maybe real life? The fact of the matter is that there are alot of different reasons people reoffend 1. once you have a felony it is hard to find a job that pays enough for you to support yourself let alone contribute to your family 2. Once incarcerated it is a proven statistic that inmates (some) adapt to it to the point that they feel like it is home 3. some of them are just deviant 4.Some reenter not on a new charge but on a violation such as failure to pay child support but the statistics don't show this they just label it as reoffending 5. some who have been out of touch with society for years have not been given the proper training to survive in a world that has changed in every way since they went in 6.some have no positive people in their lives to encourage them, true enough they should want to do it themselves but hey let's face it everyone needs alittle help sometimes- need me to keep going, I'm one thats not afraid to debate this issue with you!
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Anonymous Citizen


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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your reasoning, shall we?
you said, "The fact of the matter is that there are alot of different reasons people reoffend
1. once you have a felony it is hard to find a job that pays enough for you to support yourself let alone contribute to your family
[seeing as since the GOVERNMENT has been supporting the inmate for YEARS, and by statistics, is probably supporting most, if not all, of the family that he isn't going to contribute to, i can see why you brought this up. the inmate needed to mull this one over just a little bit more before doing what he did, didn't he? sorry, i don't feel sorry for a person who works hard to put himself into a BAD SITUATION MULTIPLE TIMES.]
2. Once incarcerated it is a proven statistic that inmates (some) adapt to it to the point that they feel like it is home
[SOME??? let's try over sixty percent.]
3. some of them are just deviant
[this should have been reason number one.]
4.Some reenter not on a new charge but on a violation such as failure to pay child support but the statistics don't show this they just label it as reoffending
[failure to pay child support IS a "new charge", it is a different felony than whatever put him in jail in the first place. just because he is put away doesn't mean that we will forgive him for being IRRESPONSIBLE. that's what he's SUPPOSED TO BE, A RESPONSIBLE CITIZEN. you obviously have a PROBLEM with that.]
5. some who have been out of touch with society for years have not been given the proper training to survive in a world that has changed in every way since they went in
[it takes no "proper training" to survive in this world or the world that was around when he went in. by the way, he DID have the PROPER TRAINING, it's called school. did he MISS THAT?]
6.some have no positive people in their lives to encourage them, true enough they should want to do it themselves but hey let's face it everyone needs alittle help sometimes-
[so, you believe that it takes positive people in their lives to allow some to succeed while others are forced into jail? a LOT of people are POOR, a lot of people are UNEDUCATED, a lot of people have NO POSITIVE ROLE MODELS, but they stay out of prison.]
you would have me believe that simply because your loved one had no GOOD JOB (read that UNION JOB paying top dollar for bottom smarts), SUFFICIENT TRAINING TO SURVIVE (that the rest of us somehow magically got, but he didn't)POSITIVE ROLE MODELS IN HIS LIFE (even you), that is what CAUSED HIM TO COMMIT THE CRIMES HE COMMITTED?
maybe it's because he's JUST DEVIANT.
by the way, what did your loved one DO that got him hard time, that everyone ELSE who is under the same circumstances DIDN'T DO?
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Anonymous Citizen


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is to release the prisoners and fire the cops.
very astute financial planning.
if we CUT THE SPENDING on each inmate, we can AFFORD to keep them IN JAIL for their ENTIRE SENTENCE.
that way, the goals of incarceration (which is to PUNISH the inmate, not to REHABILITATE.) are met.
now, the ONE ISSUE you seem to ignore here is the fact that michigan pays over a hundred dollars a day for each inmate they incarcerate.
michigan pays 36,000 per inmate per year, missouri pays only 12,000.
only nine states pay HIGHER per inmate charges than michigan. i call that IRRESPONSIBLE MANAGEMENT.
you are fine with that kind of irresponsibility, as you are fine with the release of inmates and firing of police officers across the state.
these are NOT the solutions to the problems, they are simply creating NEW problems.
truth in sentencing adds to our prison expenses, yes, but not to the level you would be led to believe by the liberal media.
if the inmates were not offending, then they wouldn't be in jail, you seem go GLOSS OVER THAT POINT as well.
T.I.S. only adds about 15 to 20 percent to the total, as that is the percentage of LONGER SENTENCES that are seen.
the rest of the high costs lies squarely on the mismanagement of the state.
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Anonymous Citizen


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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have been in power for longer than both of us have been on the planet. THEIR system of social programs either hasn't been adopted (by them) or ISN'T WORKING.
if you wish to contribute YOUR tax money to whatever social program you support, that's fine, just check off the box on the tax form.
oh, yeah, that's right, our DEMOCRAT GOVERNOR DOESN'T TRUST US TO DECIDE HOW BEST TO SPEND OUR MONEY.
SHE doesn't support those social programs you insist that i pay for either.
if she DID, we would HAVE THEM.
so, go get over being lied to, and start living life in the REAL WORLD.
i'm not going to tell you how to vote, it's not any of my business, and you won't listen anyway.
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ninjaxxxxxxxxx


- Joined on 11-22-2008
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you are the same idiot that i was talking to. all you do is obseessover the gay things that may go on in prison and keep responding to comments with the same bs. you obviously have no idea about what goes on in the "justice" system. you just think that you are somehow better than everyone else for some reason. well, you're not better than anyone. ya, i used to get high. however, i would be willing to bet that you do, too. maybe not on illegal drugs, but you still get high. infact, i would be willing to bet that sometime in your life you have driven home drunk. if you've been to the bar, then it's safe to say that you have driven home drunk. what about when the speed limit sign says 45 and you do 50. aren't you breaking the law then? oh, you didn't hurt anyone so it's ok. what about the lady driving next to you with her 2 kids that you've endangered by exceeding the speed limit? true, some of the points you bring up do have merit, howeever, they are invalid and have no relevency to what we are talking about here. here we are talking about giving people in prison 5 days off of every month that they have not gotten in any trouble. why shouldn't we? why are you so against it? all i've heard you do is talk about how other people are wrong, how you're so smart, and about alot of gay stuff. and, if you want my professional opinion, you are gay or, at least, have some type of gay isuues. anyone with a little bit of training in phsycology could see that, by what you write. that's ok, though. i know you're gonna write some comment back about how i'm stupid or gay and whatever else but that doesn't matter. all that matters is that the state is broke and they really have no choice but to instate this bill. so, it doesn't really matter how many people you say are gay or how many times you cry, unless you have $100,000,000 to give the state, they are gonna pass this bill. which brings me back to my point. you and everyone who is like you and thinks like you and even me and the people that think like me, don't matter. because, unless you make ten million a year (and that's just to get you foot in the door), you don't matter. you are just another no name person in our society that is there for the elite few to make money off of. always remember that.
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ninjaxxxxxxxxx


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what made you even think of asking if i thought you liked me or whatever it was you said? i'm flattered that you would care so much as to whether i like you or not, but why would i care? i don't care what you like or don't like. i don't control you or anyone else. to me, you are just an idiot and, thus, not important. i really loved the part about were you said that you don't even speed. ok, it's your story so i''ll let you tell it. by the way, didn't i tell you before about all that tough guy talk? remember, don't be a computer gangster. anyway, just wanted to tell you that you're an idiot. it's not that i don't agree with some of the things you say. you just come across as an asshole. you don't want to debate things because you don't want to take the time to research things, so you have nothing intellegent to say about this bill and the oteher things that we talk about, so you resort to personally attacking people. i've told you plenty of times before to either read what i write or research the topic before you comment on either one of them. because you have a really bad habit of just reading what you want to read. for example, you made all those sly reply comments to that lady (further down the page), and, in one of them, you were talking real bad about her and started talking about her husband then were almost taunting her to say what her husband did, like she would be scared to say. the funny thing was, though, is that she had already said what those things were that he did. i thought that she had already told what he did (in a different comment) and then i read another comment from her later that comfirmed it. she responded and told you the same thing that i always do, read what was written. anyway, i'm just tryin' to give you some pointers that will help you get along better with others. oh, one last thing. even if i was a male prostitute, why you gotta knock my hustle?
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Anonymous Citizen


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can you tell me what the medical condition is that would make a 'PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION' a medical necessity?
what disease or condition makes it so that, to save the life of the mother, the child has to be partially birthed, and then have it's brains sucked out, killing him in the birth canal?
how many women are liable to catch this disease?
is there ANY OTHER CURE?
oh, by the way, how much money did hillary and obama collect? (in other words HOW RICH ARE they?)
how much of THAT money is going to the POOR? how much to the MIDDLE CLASS?
the problem with katrina was that not everybody WAS treated equally. the people who we GIVE housing, who we GIVE money, who we GIVE food, ALL WANTED TO BE GIVEN A FREE RIDE TO SAFETY.
EVERYBODY ELSE HAD TO GET OUT ON THEIR OWN.
the city is doing quite well now, WITHOUT FEDERAL AID.
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Anonymous Citizen


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truth in sentencing is only
responsible for 20 percent of the massive spending.
inmates in jail are responsible for 100 percent of the massive spending.
liberal legislators are responsible for the spending of FAR TOO MANY DOLLARS PER INMATE.
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