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Fantastic legislation!

Thanks for sharing your feelings.

Period.

along with a cluster of stars. The stars represent no KNOW constellations. They are said to represents Michigan's future. At the time it was painted women could not even vote. Michigan's future was to be one in which women voted and women were leaders in our state. That future was come. This is a proud moment in Michigan history when our female leaders can be national leaders, as well. I support this legislation. Introduced by Sen. Beverly Hammerstrom on September 12, 2006, to require the parents or guardian of every female child entering sixth grade in a public or nonpublic school to either have the child vaccinated with the human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine, or sign a statement to the effect that he or she had received information schools would be required to distribute on the connection between HPV and cervical cancer, and had elected for the child not to receive the vaccine.

2006 Senate Bill 1417 (Mandate HPV vaccine for sixth grade girls) (Senate Roll Call 719) Passed in the Senate (36 to 1) on September 20, 2006. [History, Amendments & Comments] The vote was 36 in favor, 1 opposed, and 1 not voting (Senate Roll Call 719 at Senate Journal 85) [Comment on this vote | View others' comments] Vote Support Oppose Not Voting Undecided Legislators (Republican) 90% 4% 4% 22 total votes Legislators (Democrat) 100% 0% 0% 16 total votes What do you think? Support Oppose Undecided (logon required) The following legislators supported 2006 Senate Bill 1417 (Mandate HPV vaccine for sixth grade girls): Allen (R) Barcia (D) Basham (D) Birkholz (R) Bishop (R) Brater (D) Brown (R) Cassis (R) Cherry (D) Clark-Coleman (D) Clarke (D) Cropsey (R) Emerson (D) George (R) Gilbert (R) Goschka (R) Hammerstrom (R) Hardiman (R) Jacobs (D) Jelinek (R) Johnson (R) Kuipers (R) Leland (D) McManus (R) Olshove (D) Patterson (R) Prusi (D) Schauer (D) Scott (D) Sikkema (R) Stamas (R) Switalski (D) Thomas (D) Toy (R) Van Woerkom (R) Whitmer (D) The following legislators opposed 2006 Senate Bill 1417 (Mandate HPV vaccine for sixth grade girls): Sanborn (R) The following legislators did not vote on 2006 Senate Bill 1417 (Mandate HPV vaccine for sixth grade girls): Garcia (R)

that you don't then. At 11 years old if your daughter needs this shot then the parents also need to be shot.

take about an hour before all the girls in the public indoctrination centers know all about this.

Women are informed and not putting up with it anymore. This is a good bill.

The older kids get, the less they get the shots they are suppose to anyway. Give it at 11 or make the choice for your family not to by signing the form. If I burn in hell for having my daughter get the shot, then so be it. You can wave to my family from heaven.

First of all, sixth grade females are not women -- they are girls. This bill automatically assumes that 11 year old children are going to be having sex and will therefore be at risk. I find that assumption to be disturbing. In addition, it puts the responsibility of providing medical information regarding the vaccine in the laps of the schools. What other vaccinations do the schools have to provide information on? None, because dispensing that information is more appropriately left in the hands of the doctor's office. Furthermore, this legislation makes the vaccination mandatory unless you go through the rigamarole of getting the opt out form, stating your objection, etc. Strange, but I seem to recall that when the chicken pox vaccine first came out, parents didn't have to go through that process. That vaccine was optional for a very long time without one tenth of the debate that is going on over this one. I'd be willing to bet that more kids got chicken pox before the vaccine than HPV. I say make this vaccination optional without requiring parents to justify their objection (the same as we did with chicken pox) and put the responsibility of dispensing medical information back in the doctor's office where it belongs.

When my grandson was born this summer they tried to give him a hepatitis vacine. Luckily his mother caught it in time and talked to the doctor. The doctor said that unless you raise your child in a crack house it is stupid to do this so young. She recommended after talking that she get it when he starts school or sometime in the future. She also said that babies don't handle these shots very well. Always question doctors because they just do what the nanny state tells them.

one week they will all know that the good state of michganistan has made it safe for them to have sex.

The HPV vaccine won’t make sex safe. It will make it safer for women or girls who have been vaccinated before having been infected by human papillomavirus (HPV). When you consider the fact that more than 50% of sexually active men and women have been infected at some time with HPV, it becomes pretty obvious that risk of exposure is quite high once a girl or woman starts having sexual contacts. The reality is that most females will become sexually active at some time in their lives. People in their right minds do not think their mommies were eternal virgins, disturbing as the thought of Mom having sex may be to some people. Likewise, people in their right minds don’t believe their little girls will abstain from sexual contact forever. Some will start younger than they should; others will start later than the norm; most will start having some kind of sexual contact according to Nature’s plan as they fully blossom into womanhood. There are two equal parts of the morality equation at work, here. One part involves teaching our daughters to behave “respectably,” as we personally define that idea. The other part deals with reality and the obligation we have as parents to do whatever we reasonably can to protect our precious daughters from harm. HPV vaccination falls into the latter part of that equation.

Great bill!

We're not stupid, but it's a step toward saving lives.

Great bill!

active. Each case is different and private.

it's a step towards saving lives, a step that we are being FORCED TO TAKE. we're not stupid either, offer it, if it's good, we'll take it. mandating it makes it seem like something that is bad for us.

I think it is important to recognize that the young girls receiving the vaccine will eventually grow up, graduate high school (hopefully), graduate college (really hopefully), and go into the world as mature responsible adult women. And as someone who considers herself a mature responsible woman, I can tell you that events happen along the way that you never could have predicted. Aspirations, decisions, loves, and values can change and evolve. Mistakes of all sorts are always made along the way to adulthood. It is the learning from these mistakes that we find out who we really are. This is how maturity is earned. Fortunately, if the right decisions are made in advance to prepare for any possible mistakes, unfair, or unforeseen circumstances that might arise, our daughters can handle the situation and move on with life. This vaccine is another wise preparation for an unknown future, just as seatbelts, spare-keys, and insurance policies allows us to survive, and continue to thrive, when circumstances we hoped and prayed would never come, and lived our lives in a manner to prevent, find us anyway. Not that it’s ever happened to anyone else, but what if she makes a poor decision about the seriousness of a relationship when she’s 16, or 18, or 24? What if she’s assaulted? What if the man she eventually falls in love with as a virgin bride has the virus but doesn’t know it (because men tend to be asymptomatic)? What if in any of these cases she was prepared with a vaccine, how could that change the outcome and her ability to overcome and move on with life? Our daughters need to be protected BEFORE a situation comes up, not once they realize they are in too deep.

vaccine, or it's effectiveness... it's the fact that it's MANDATORY. parents are given NO CHOICE. the bill had to be amended to allow dissenting parents the opportunity to "opt out". if it's good for our kids, sell it on the merits, don't jam it down our throats.

Here's the skinny on this bill. This bill is in an "opt out" format for a very simple reason: making the vaccine mandatory will require it to be paid for for those who cannot afford it or health insurance. All parents still have a choice, which itself is important. With an "opt in" policy, there is no mandate for coverage. Read this from Nancy Gibbs' article on TIME.com about the argument that it should not be mandatory but decided on by parents: "sounds incredibly reasonable. Who can disagree with parents making health decisions for their children? But take a closer look at that argument: it's denying the vaccine to many people who won't have access to it unless it's mandatory." Many parents might not know to ask for it, or be able to afford it. "If it's available in theory but it costs $375, its not available to everybody. If it's only effective before women have been exposed to HPV, we've missed our opportunity." Besides, she says, every state already has a law allowing parents to decline vaccination on religious grounds without their kids being banned from school. But "by making it mandatory, you make it accessible."

Opt out if you want, that is very clearly an option. But how could you leave your child unprepared for the unknown?

FORCE me to prepare for the unknown? it's all about YOU MUST DO SOMETHING I SAY YOU MUST DO. whether it's good for you or not is BESIDE THE POINT. if it's good for you, and expensive, let government buy it, and distribute it for free, like flu shots.

the bill WASN'T in an "opt out" format until many voices were raised against it, including some of the same legislators who helped write it. there was NO CHOICE in the original bill. it had to be amended before a choice was ADDED. in it's original form, the writers had NO INTENT on you being able to "opt out". you were going to get it whether you wanted it or not. admittedly, the "stakes" were low, you just couldn't go back to school FOREVER without it. i don't object to the medicine, i object to the METHOD OF DELIVERY.

how come i have to pay for mine?

are not a "favored minority".

:) Are we?

I am sorry but for years we have been searching for a cure for cancer, and here sits a vaccine that can prevent it! Why wouldnt we want to protect our children from something that could potentially kill them down the road?! I'm sorry but anyone who does not agree is an idiot!

touted as a "cure" for cancer. it's not even an effective treatment for cancer if the person has already been exposed to the virus. it HAS been mandated, that is, forced upon us. effective or not. whether we want it or not. whether it WORKS or not. if it's good, offer it to us, we'll see it's worth and (presumably) take it. don't shove it down our throats.

agree with being FORCED to take this vaccine. anyone who DOES is an idiot.

COULD possibly kill them down the road. does your kid smoke? does your kid drink? WILL your kid smoke? WILL your kid drink? what if the government suddenly mandated "anabuse" type innoculations for just in case your kid ever decides to smoke, or drink? how would that make you feel?

The vaccination for HPV has not yet been mandated. The legislation still has to get through the House and be signed into law by the Governor (or manage a veto override) to become mandated. Don't get your shorts all in a knot just yet. Make sure your existing state Rep knows how you see this issue just in case the coming election goes the other way for him, or her. Make sure your candidates know your views, too. Arm yourself with facts. Get rid of the hysteria. Maybe then you can get what you want. (The true optimist writes.)

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Saying no thanks.

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means that someone wants CONTROL of me. is health care the "proper role of government"?

or you get the shot IS being forced. why don't you understand that? i know... you're just happy being told what is good for you.