Michigan Votes Forum

Yes,  you are quite correct.  My girlfriend is affraid of weapons.  Her daughter lives with us (senior in high school).  But she won't have much to do with me as I am the "outsider".  They have both been instructed as to my "no touchy" rule as far as my weapons.  My girlfriend's two sons are no longer in the house...they've had to move out.  Both are 23 & 25 years old.  T'was about time eh?  Can't live at home with mommy til your 30.  I was out on my own at 18. 

Her oldest son is the one that came to attack me.  Anytime there's been a disagreement in the home,  the daughter calls him and he thinks he's the calvary.  He and the 23 year old are no longer welcome.  The situation is uncomfortable.  I'm not their father...never tried to be.  I'm 51 years old,  have four kids of my own.  But her boys are trouble makers...you know...tough guys.  They found out that this ex-hockey player gives no quarter.  No one walks in and stomps on me.  The situation seems quiet for now,  but the pattern dictates that he'll return and make for more trouble.  Of course,  I will stand my ground, and this time he may not be as lucky.  I'm not taking anymore crap...from anyone.

So,  this spring,  I plan to educate my girlfriend on the weaponry.  I am a well trained survivalist,  and was formerly affiliated with a para-military unit.  I still have a very small group of friends who I affiliate with on a regular basis.  We're law abiding,  tax paying,  decent people.  No criminals allowed and are devout patriots.  We love our God and country. 

I keep tabs on many of these groups and lately,  there are a growing number of them with rapidly expanding membership.  Everyone needs to protect their 2nd Amendment rights.  Gun control doesn't takes guns out of the hands of criminals.  It only leaves law abiding citizens unarmed,  and without means to protect themselves.  My idea of gun control is "aim true,  squeeze,  and don't miss".

So to all LAW ABIDING citizens...protect your Constitution,  your Bill of Rights,  and your country.  Remember those that have sacrificed their lives for your freedom.  Obey the laws of the land and for God's sake be honest!   Stand your ground and do not let thugs and criminals ruin your freedom and infringe upon your rights.  It's called being an American.

 Someone know if it exist any retroactivity about this law?

There should be nothing wrong with deadly force, especially if that person is attacked by another human being. The person doing the attacking is over stepping there bounds and must accept any outcome of there actions. The person being attacked should not have to worry about whats going to happen if they hurt there attacker. 

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This bill seems very just! I had a buddy, who was actually a US Marine, have someone break into his house while he was sleeping. If you would expect anyone to enfornce the "home is my castle" doctrine, you would think it would be him. However, to my surprise he locked his bedroom door and protected his wife. When I asked him about it, he said that it was not worth the risk to his family (and his Michigan health insurance costs, hah!)that he confront the intruder and possibly be shot and killed. What a cool head!

No criminals allowed and are devout patriots. I hope the situation will be stable in US soon. A reader from San Diego Electrician

you should be able to use self defense at any point in your own home. there should be no judgement upone that. if someone enters youur home you must do what you need to do to protect yourself

my other comment didn't go through. but what i was saying is that any individual  should be able to use any force they need to protect their home

A bill to clarify the rights and duties of self-defense and  the defense of others; to provide for criminal and civil immunity  

under certain circumstances; to regulate the investigation of incidents involving self-defense or the defense of others; and to  

provide for certain remedies.

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The vote was 90 in favor, 16 opposed and 1 not voting

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 Amendment offered by Rep. Rick Jones (R) on April 25, 2006, to remove provision that a person who breaks and enters into a dwelling or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to committ an unlawful or violent act. The bill instead establishes a rebuttable presumption that this is the case. The amendment passed by voice vote in the House on April 25, 2006.

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 Bird.  I am 66 and cannot evoke the physical strength needed to repel even a Jr. Hi kid (health prolems don't make it any better).  I obtained my CPL last year.  I own 5 pistols of varying calibers, one rifel and 2 shotguns and more than 5000 rounds of ammunition collectively.  Every day that I go out, I carry, even to the mailbox, I even carry in my own home and on my property.  Now.  What is important is that the courts have clearly indicated that police officers have no legal duty to protect individual citizens but are obligated to the citizens at large, (Warren v. District of Columbia).  So.  My question is, "Who is going to protect you when you are attacked by a criminal?"  Maybe Gypsy in an earlier post on tasers.  Also, the Department of Justice, in a national study, revealed that the average time for the police to respond to a violent criminal call is one hour.  The shortest response time I found was 30 minutes.  These two facts alone demonstrate a need for every citizen to become armed legally, and trained, and have all viable options to deadly force.  Research and research some more on the law and cases to CYA.  The law says one thing and the legislators carried an intent with the law, but the police and Prosecutors may look at it differently and you could be in a world of hurt when you face 12 jury members.

    United States Concealed Carry Association has a web site you can connect to to get insurance that covers retainer fees and up to $25,000 in lawyer costs, but its expensive.

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I'm very pleased that Michigan has revised the Self Defense Act.

1992 wilson case.

I recently had to defend my family against the imminent danger that my older brother was about to inflict upon them.

 People v Pattison

, 276 Mich App 613, 615; 741 NW2d 558

People v Crawford

, 458 Mich 376, 390; All of my immediate family has once been attacked by my older brother Christopher Neil Blair, a convicted felon of felonious assault with intent to do great bodily harm, less than murder with firearm.

582 NW2d 785 (1998). MRE 403 provides that relevant evidence “may be excluded if its

probative value is substantially outweighed by the danger of unfair prejudice[.]”

My mother was once held down by chris neil blair with a knife while he was going threw his felonious assault trial.

Durning an episode of his, when he was fresh out the penetenary, he head butted my Mother, Kimberly Blair in the nose, breaking it. I then beat his ass, he called the cops, and he went to the hospital. Cops didnt do no type of investigation! no charges pressed.

He almost killed my little brother 8 or 9 years back, John Micheal Blair refused to give any statement.

Christopher Neil Blair strangled me at Patrick Ervings house in Carlton, Michigan, has chocked me until i was unconscious, State Police Dispachted, this was during 8 or 9 years back. I had a broken ankle, due to his assault that Joel Molenoski witnessed a week prior. Seaway Southshore medical records.

Chris Blair bitten my 2 year old daughter 8 years ago, leaving a nasty bruise on her arm. John Micheal Blair and kimberly blair witnessed it. Kim Blair threatened to evict Jason Blair "who didnt witness it" if he reported the convicted violent felon, christopher blair bit his daughter.

He's put 3 different girlfriends of his in the hospital, Carrie Wilson wyandotte, Jennifer molonoski Brownstown, Darlene Younglove? monroe.

Chris tells story's to me about how he strangled prostitutes. First time i became aware of it was right before chris broke my ankel durning his assault.

 Our Family has been emotionally and physcially abused Christopher Blair our whole lives.

2006 Change in Michigans Self Defense Act.

Christopher plays mindgames with us all since he got his psychology degree. He assaults with emotional manipulation. He plants seeds in my head that ever since i reported him for doing that csc next door, "chris telling the 10 year old girl to take her shirt off"  he has hidden many times in the woods behind my parents house with a gun. He told me this durning another disfunctional family makeup session.

He attacked me and battered me in my own home for reporting child neglect to cps.  when i called the cops, they basically told me and my parents that its up to them whether or not to arrest him. and since he's not in the home right now, "he fled", they will not arrest him. I did not fight back. just got my ass beat, being a 31 year old pansy.

I went to my grandmothers house 5 houses down, so i would not be assaulted again, he came out her garage and hit me twice in the head. I told him mom and dad already told the cops you beat me up and your going to jail ***, "his 3rd domestic violence", he then stated he's going to strangle them to death.... When i heard that, i hit him 3 times in the face with my fist, shattering my knuckle, breaking 2 teeth out, broke his nose, and fractured his skull. He was in the hospital for 5 days.

If michigan had not revised the SDA, i would be in jail right now, being treated as a common criminal.

Thanks  Rep. Rick Jones and Granholm!!!! Love You!

I also appreciate Rep Jones inititive on joint physical !

But i would like to see the BAD COP ACT OF 2012 enacted. This way, all of this would have been preventable. Now i have a broken hand, and scared, cause i know when he heals, the police wont do there job and protect and serve me.

(2007). Relevant evidence is defined as evidence that has “any tendency to make the existence

of any fact that is of consequence to the determination of the action more probable or less

probable than it would be without the evidence.” MRE 401. “The threshold [of relevancy] is minimal: ‘any’ tendency is sufficient probative force.”

 Under MCL 768.27b, “the Legislature now allows trial courts to admit relevant evidence

of other domestic assaults to prove any issue, even the character of the accused, if the evidence

meets the standard of MRE 403.”

768.27b Domestic violence offense; commission of other domestic violence acts; admissibility; disclosure; definitions; applicability of section.

http://coa.courts.mi.gov/DOCUMENTS/OPINIONS/FINAL/SCT/20100608_S138031_71_feezel-op.pdf

 You should also thank Rep. Rick Jones who introduced this bill.

I want to advocate for any new self defense act changes, that you guys might introduce. Is this a constant issue that Rep. Rick Jones introduces? 

There is a serious problem with police agencies not investigating and blow off citizens complaints of violence.  The People should change the criminal and civil immunity that blankets police agencies, and officers., so when they conduct poor, sloppy, or otherwise investigates complaints under performance to there capabilities and standards. If its a foreseeable factor that future violence is more likely to happen then less likely, they should be required to diligently investigate and put in force any action necessary that will prohibit and prevent serious harm, deaths, assaults, harrasments so-on.  If a cop fails to do there job, and someones hurt over it, then damages done should correlate to the officers punishiment. A fine for a bruise.  up to 90 days if somesones seriously hurt, and up to 10 years if someone dies, as a result of there inadequate and underperformanced investigation. They get paid tax money, "our money" to protect us. Thats there job. So when they dont protect us, they basically are stealing that money.

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 Duty to Retreat?  You got to be kidding!  Sounds like your typical liberal, left wing moonbat type of bill.  Barack Obama started all this crybaby crap when he authorized a medal for servicemen who run from the enemy instead of taking them out.  Liberals are such woooooshes it makes me sick.  I think I'm going out today and buy another weapon just in spite of this dumbass bill.  Only a progressive Democrat would come up with something like this and anyone like gypsy would support it.  Sad!

Before someone gets their blood pressure too high, this bill was passed in 2006, with 65% of the Democrats voting for it. But Democrats can't take credit for proposing the bill, a Republican did, and it is to REPEAL the "duty to retreat". This bill goes way beyond one's right to protect his home and family, it gives people the right to use deadly force in public if they feel threatened. That's crazy.

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