Michigan Votes Forum

PERHAPS YOU COULD TRY THE SAME: SOMETHING SMART TO SAY, THAT IS.

you consider yourself a grownup? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!

ross paroe. he was a very wealthy person. probably more so than dick devos. anyway he ran as an independant. boy, was he the ticket. alot of people backed him. the only down side was he took votes from both the right and left. anway, we ended up with "SLICK WILLY and MOMMA HILLARY". in the end willy got caught dippng a cigar with an intern. hillary made thousands in cattle futures [and denied it]. willy was also impeached. hillary is now a senator in new york. willy also had a chance to get ben laden but failed on that too. the fact that peroet[?] was a millionare and a lot of people DID like him, makes me wonder why there is so much distaste for devos. granholm is spending your money. not hers. if you were spending someone elses without having to worry about it. how much would you spend ??? how would you spend it ?? a busniess man or woman understands checks and balances. oprah is a millionaire. why don't people hate her. i'll bet she takes every chance she can to get tax breaks. then comes on her show and talks bad about bush. there is so much double standard it makes a person sick. i want michiganistan back to a place where people want to come back to. drop the damned gas and fuel taxes. get rid of that stupid helmet law. make this state a place thats affordable to live in again. JENNY, GO HOME. DON'T WORRY WE CAN TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES. WE WILL EVEN TAKE CARE OF THOSE POOR DEMOCRATS THAT CAN'T. WE ARE NOT COMPLETELY HEART LESS....

"the fact that peroet[?] was a millionare and a lot of people DID like him, makes me wonder why there is so much distaste for devos." IT IS BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW A WEASLE WHEN THEY SEE ONE! "granholm is spending your money. not hers. if you were spending someone elses without having to worry about it. how much would you spend ??? how would you spend it ??" GRANHOLM IS SPENDING CAMPAIGN MONEY THAT SHE RAISED HERSELF AND THAT WAS DONATED BY HER SUPPORTERS; SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO SPEND IT OUT OF HER OWN POCKET LIKE DEVOS! SHE HAS MANY SUPPORTERS THAT EXCEEDS DEVOS' MILLIONS. OBVIOUSLY! "a busniess man or woman understands checks and balances." AND HOW TO AVOID PAYING TAXES! "oprah is a millionaire. why don't people hate her. i'll bet she takes every chance she can to get tax breaks. then comes on her show and talks bad about bush. there is so much double standard it makes a person sick." MANY RICH DEMOCRATS, AREN'T THERE? :) ALOT OF INTELLIGENT PEOPLE OUT THERE: ALL DEMOCRATS.

If you had a reasonable amount of money you HAD to give to someone to invest,and give some type of return on your money... and your only choices were Grand-Hole, and DeVos, who would you choose ??? The buisiness man, or the lawyer???.......Personally, I think all lawyers can't be trusted to begin with.

DICK DEVOS! A.K.A. WEASLE GO GRANHOLM! YOU ROCK AND WE LOVE YOU! AS DOES THE MAJORITY OF MICHIGAN RESIDENTS! AS THE POLLS SHOW! :)

WHOEVER CAN PRESENT THEIRSELF WELL, AND WHO HAS A (BETTER) PLAN! DEVOS NEVER ACCOMPLISHED EITHER ONE!

GRANHOLM IS SPENDING CAMPAIGN MONEY THAT SHE RAISED HERSELF AND THAT WAS DONATED BY HER SUPPORTERS; SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO SPEND IT OUT OF HER OWN POCKET LIKE DEVOS! SHE HAS MANY SUPPORTERS THAT EXCEEDS DEVOS' MILLIONS. OBVIOUSLY! I'm going to sink to your level, and say you are a complete moron. Jenny is spending money she has raised INCLUDING PAC money....Do you even know what PAC money is ???? It's money from special interest groups such as the insurance industry....it's how they buy her to pass what they want. DeVos does not, and will not accept PAC money, because he can't be bought. He is spending his own money, instead of tax payer contributions....and that makes HIM the bad guy ?????? You are unreal.

Jenny hasn't in 4 years.....she had her chance.

AND AN IDIOT. I GUESS THAT IS WHY YOU ARE VOTING FOR DEVOSSY!

For a (funny as hell) pic of Dick at His Audition for Brokeback Mountain go to... //img352.imageshack.us/img352/1615/brokebackdick41bu.jpg Here are some of Dick DeVos' Best Quotes from the Debates... October 10th: *I mean, this is, uh, this is again said. *Boy, that’s a hard question. *Yes, the Governor needs to remember that the Governor’s not the Governor. October 16th: *Well, to suggest that, I think, is to suggest that the people of Michigan can be bought, which as a citizen of Michigan I would find insulting. *I am going to be my own economic development director. [Because I'm so good at communicating...] LOL! SOUNDS LIKE A RE-RE-PUB! CAN'T TALK WORTH A SHI*!

Checking DeVos ad claims: In their fourth "Claim Check" on the Dick DeVos advertising campaign, Wood TV 8 reports on the recent TV spot, Unemployed (video, transcript): The claim is made that one job is lost in the state every ten minutes since Governor Grahholm took office. According to the DeVos campaign, that would add to to nearly 160,000 jobs. The article goes on to point out Bureau of Labor Statistics press releases on DeVos's website that purportedly support the claim. Of course, if you actually read these, you'll see that they simply summarize state and regional unemployment percentages for the last three years. And that yes, Michigan (along with Alaska) tops the list among states, unemployment-wise. Then TV 8 cites a different table on the BLS site, which shows a lower unemployment percentage for Michigan than the reports cited by DeVos -- with the numbers showing more like 82,000 jobs lost, a significant difference. The state GOP site has yet another calculation, and of course, Gov. Granholm uses a different figure and observes that however you slice it, "the job loss lies on the doorsteps of George W. Bush and John Engler," according to this article. I resent the number crunching by the DeVos campaign -- turning a single digit percentage (which, though huge by unemployment standards still is a small number on its own) into a "jobs lost per minute" metric in an effort to make the problem seem more immediately threatening. I give credit to TV8 for the effort here, even though the reporting seems to me to be less probing or thoughtful than it should be. It's always good to call somebody on their use/misuse of numbers and statistics. If there's anything I've learned in my years of writing marketing communications, it's that you can make numbers say just about anything you want.

Granholm offers a more positive vision for state Friday, November 3, 2006 Yes, Michigan's in rough shape, scraping bottom in most every economic indicator. Gov. Jennifer Granholm inherited a mess from Republican John Engler compounded by the auto industry restructuring itself during a prolonged period of job-shedding. The governor has scrambled her first four years to patch gaping holes in the state budget while trying to strengthen education, the key to future prosperity, and protect services for vulnerable citizens. Republicans control the Legislature and had a decade to abolish the Single Business Tax, but they seem more determined to see her fail than to work together. GOP nominee Dick DeVos has pumped millions of his personal fortune into his campaign, but offers a vague plan beyond running the state more like a business. Like Engler did? Like Indiana did with the toll road? Running a government is not the same as running a business. Granholm possesses compassion to go with the vision that will be necessary during this difficult transition from the auto age and its union-based lifestyle to a more diversified high-technology global era. An energetic, dynamic leader, she has outlined a health care program that would help Michigan's more than a million uninsured. She sped up state highway construction to create jobs. And using $1 billion from the state's share of the national tobacco damage settlement, Granholm nurtured the 21st Century Jobs Fund for entrepreneurial venture capital. Given the magnitude of forces swirling in Michigan's economy, a dramatic turnaround will not be achieved as quickly as the state seemed to crash. Michigan's challenge demands a long-term strategy to wean our century-old reliance on the auto industry as economic engine. Fundamental change takes time, but the positive Granholm steered the state down a more promising path during the painful adjustment period. She best recognizes that the state still bears responsibility for schools, health care, public safety and local governments as Michigan continues to invest in its chief asset, its people. We support a second term for Gov. Granholm and her belief Michigan can excel.

what we SAID was that a recanted story means that they were lying AT LEAST ONCE. kind of like when granholm said she had a plan... finally.

a second term for granholm, the state won't be here if we do. she's had FOUR YEARS to 'diversify' the state economy, she has done NOTHING. she's had FOUR YEARS to 'improve state education', she has done NOTHING. she's had FOUR YEARS to show 'compassion', she's done NOTHING. she HAS veto'd (several times) the repeal of the current tax system. she HAS done that. you call that "working towards a better future"???

and you STILL haven't called governor granholm on her "attack ads"? you practice the same type of slanted journalism that she does???

another well thought out response. I think it's past your bedtime.

DON'T YOU WISH YOU WERE SO YOUNG AND SMART?! :)

as the polls show we will. GO GRANHOLM! :)

HELLO? WE ARE STILL WAITING TO HEAR HIS PLAN. ANYONE THERE? HELLLLLOOO?! GO GRANHOLM!

I think there is a very good chance Jenny is going to get re-elected. Unfortunately, it is not because she has done a good job as governor, but because of the sheeple of this state, that refuse to think anything out, and are happy to follow the masses to more slaughter. The other reason, is this crazy trend to just go with "your" political party, no matter how lousy of a job the person has done. Jennifer has done nothing to qualify her for re-election. Take the blindfolds off, and forget about democrat, or republican. She has been a finger pointing, blame someone else, do nothing, it's not my fault, governor. I will cross party lines in a split second, if the person is qualified to do what they are supposed to, and has a proven track record. Jenny has not done anything that makes me believe she can turn things around here with another 4 years. She sure hasn't improved my way of life over the LAST 4. Reading some of the posts here, with the support and party loyalty in favor of her, truly makes me feel this state is doomed to another 4 year term of hell, and ranking at the bottom of every important statistic. Just as long as a republican doesn't get in there, we'll keep hoping our gal will do something right in another 4 years. THAT, my friends, is unreal. Regardless of what anyone says, or thinks..... my friends, my co-workers, and my family members were all better off before she ever took office.

GO FAR, FAR AWAY....LIKE CANADA.

:) OORAH!

Did you think of that while you were driving your foriegn car on the way to wal-mart ?

WHOEVER CAN PRESENT THEIRSELF WELL, AND WHO HAS A (BETTER) PLAN! DEVOS HAS NEVER ACCOMPLISHED EITHER ONE! GO JENNI! WE LUV YA! :) DON'T HAVE TO BE A MILLIONAIRE TO BE GOVERNOR! NO MORE ENGLERS: VOTE GRANHOLM!

GLAD YOU WERE SO IMPRESSED. I AIM TO PLEASE [MYSELF, AND MY COUNTRY] GO GRANHOLM! DEVOS TO CHINA! 3 MORE DAYS! OORAH! :)

I don't think Canada is far enough.

I HAVE NEVER OWNED A FOREIGN CAR AND NEVER WILL. I BUY AMERICAN. PROUDLY! AS FOR WALMART... THAT IS FOR SHOPPERS LIKE YOU: LOW-BUDGET SWEAT-SHOPS! *VOTE GRANHOLM* - AMERICAN SINCE AGE 4 :)

Is about as useless as breasts on a boar hog!

WHOEVER CAN PRESENT THEIRSELF WELL, AND WHO HAS A (BETTER) PLAN! DEVOS HAS NEVER ACCOMPLISHED EITHER ONE! How has Jenny presented herself well ?? It's NOT by her track record.....or are you the one that called her a "hottie" and DeVos a "notty". If that WAS you, that explains a lot......And how could DeVos acomplish his plan while GRAND-HOLE has been in office ??

WHINERS WHINERS WHINERS WHINERS.... AT LEAST THEY CAN STOP AND BURY THEIR HEAD IN 3 DAYS! ***GO DEMOCRATS*** - PROUD AMERICANS!

You spelled it wrong....it's demo-craps.

VOTE GRANHOLM* - AMERICAN SINCE AGE 4 VOTE DeVOS instead...MICHIGAN born, MICHIGAN RAISED.....AMERICAN SINCE BIRTH.

WRONG. IT WASN'T ME, SHERLOCK! AS FOR DEVOS... I TAKE IT THAT YOU DID NOT WATCH ANY OF THE DEBATES?! I THINK IT IS "YOU" WHO DOES NOT READ BEFORE YOU WRITE!

VOTE FOR THE BETTER PERSON, AND THE HONEST ONE! GO GRANHOLM! :)

LOL! WHAT IDIOTS!

I watched all 3 of the debates. The first one, DeVos looked like a deer caught in the headlights...that was because Grand-Mole came out attacking him and his buisness rather than talking about what great things she has done, and what she would do in the next 4 years. The 2nd debate was a lot like the first...keep attacking DeVos for being sucessful 3rd debate...DeVos was finally able to get a word or two in on the big mouth. If that's the presentation you are so impressed with, you are easily fooled/impressed.

i AM IN HEALTH CARE. EVER SEE SOMEONE NOT WEARING A HELMET,GET INTO AN ACCIDENT WITH A HEAD INJURY??? WANT TO BE A VEGETABLE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. STAY IN FLORIDA. RIDE WITHOUT A HELMET.

I've investigated accidents for over 30 years. I can tell you that helmets do little if any good in preventing serious injury or death with speeds over 25 mph. It sounds like you need mental care to me.

like Democrat Granholm and company have done nothing more -- and nothing less -- than mastered Republican tacticts. The DeVos camp followers whine about "attacks" on their candidate, demonstrating only that it's just awful when you get whacked with your own stick.