Michigan Votes Forum

Introduced in the Senate on October 9, 2003

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Equal Rights without discrimination. Courts,lawyers,lawmakers,Please STOP,most every Grandparents are sick of hearing about the the derose or troxell cases.The 767 would of been passed,If simple reasoning,leave out 5th degree relative part,most birthparents or grandparents who adopt, do not want just anyone petitioning for visits. The stepparent,or death of,or unwed clause was already there, so WHY was any of these Bills introduced,most of them were basicly same meaning. Now grandparents rights are worse then before. And knowing duh,a fact is 14th amendment rights will always be there. 727 was NOT a support to visits, it was "Personal battle"of Derosa/Troxell.Cramp. Here is Bottom Line-foster care system is a mess. Relative/Grandparents placement/adoption is childs reality. Separate agreements must be placed. Adoptive Grandparents Maternal or Paternal,Must be given same legal equal visitation rights to child. With or without heir name change.In 1st degree. NOTE put,(1stdegree). 710.60.ADD a(2) Input--ADD "Heir Name Clause" a GRANDCHILD ADOPTED BY MATERNAL OR PATERNAL SIDE GRANPARENTS SAID CHILD BECOMES AN HEIR AT LAW TO ADOPTIVE GRANDPARENTS,EITHER SIDE TO 1st degree may petition for visitation or mediation services. With or Without heirName change of saidGrandchild. 710.56 Order of Adoption-1,2,3,4,5 ADD --(6)--An Order of Adoption or placement of by either Maternal or Paternal Grandparents of a grandchild 1st degree, Does Not prohibit either grandparents the rights for grandparenting bond. Under the "Best interest of child Factors." Common Sense Factors, ADD ON only. not the whole child codes laws. to many cooks in kitchen spoil the pot. Modify to ADD only.

Equal Rights without discrimination. Courts,lawyers,lawmakers,Please STOP,most every Grandparents are sick of hearing about the the derose or troxell cases.The 767 would of been passed,If simple reasoning,leave out 5th degree relative part,most birthparents or grandparents who adopt, do not want just anyone petitioning for visits. The stepparent,or death of,or unwed clause was already there, so WHY was any of these Bills introduced,most of them were basicly same meaning. Now grandparents rights are worse then before. And knowing duh,a fact is 14th amendment rights will always be there. 727 was NOT a support to visits, it was "Personal battle"of Derosa/Troxell.Cramp. Here is Bottom Line-foster care system is a mess. Relative/Grandparents placement/adoption is childs reality. Separate agreements must be placed. Adoptive Grandparents Maternal or Paternal,Must be given same legal equal visitation rights to child. With or without heir name change.In 1st degree. NOTE put,(1stdegree). 710.60.ADD a(2) Input--ADD "Heir Name Clause" a GRANDCHILD ADOPTED BY MATERNAL OR PATERNAL SIDE GRANPARENTS SAID CHILD BECOMES AN HEIR AT LAW TO ADOPTIVE GRANDPARENTS,EITHER SIDE TO 1st degree may petition for visitation or mediation services. With or Without heirName change of saidGrandchild. 710.56 Order of Adoption-1,2,3,4,5 ADD --(6)--An Order of Adoption or placement of by either Maternal or Paternal Grandparents of a grandchild 1st degree, Does Not prohibit either grandparents the rights for grandparenting bond. Under the "Best interest of child Factors." Common Sense Factors, ADD ON only. not the whole child codes laws. to many cooks in kitchen spoil the pot. Modify to ADD only.

senior citizens and veterans affair committees has approved sb 767,then sb 727 came around, and the legislature took recommendation from 767 tranfered it to 727 which was not approved by veterans. favors to vote,yes the heir name change laws are beening oddly used for other reasons, but yet then all senators decided not to just accept leave in the clause sentence of + or adoption by grandparents, will not prohibit, words or grandparents must of made them run tail between legs. Favors override reality of best interest.

STUPID IS STUPID DOES IS THE RIGHT WORDS TO USE IF CONGRESS VOTES ARE CONTROLLED BY SUPREME COURTS. MICHIGAN VOTERS RIGHTS SHOULD CONTROL LEGISLATURES DECISION INTO NEW LAWS, FIT TODAYS LIFE POSITIVES. NON CAREING ACTIONS AND LACK OF BEST INTEREST OF CHILD,DISAPPOINTMENT WHEN 727 WAS PASSED. NEW REVISED LAW ARE MADE TO HELP NOT HURT EFFECTS. CREATED HARM,CONFUSION,MISTAKES,HAVE GAIN NOTHING. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES,WHEN THEY DID NOT LEAVE IN PREVIOUS EASY NO HARM,SOLVED MANY OF SOCIAL PROBLEM WORDS ADOPTION BY STEP OR GRANDPARENTS ,STILL CAN PETITION FOR VISITS. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES,WHY DID THEY TAKE IT OUT

Adoption by a Stepparent,a Agency of Courts,or a Completed New Family all those are understandable that Parents rights are the decided factors. But I have to agree with separated issues of those first degree GrandParent,are Not a new family unit the other first degree Grandparents should have a continued visitation rights by laws written in. I agree first degree maternal or paternal ONLY, whom have adopted grandchildren,both sides need a law to include best interest of child. I agree Adoption by GrandParents is not a new family. Separate issue,needs a separate laws.

Senate Bill 727 Grandparents was set into play by Legal Advisers,not by the best interest of child orbest interest of Grandparents or Parents. Yes,Legislation to go back open"Child Custody Act" input the words "OR GRANDPARENTS" does not prohibitvisits if a child is adopted by another grandparent. States interest would advance in child care also factors financial best interest of a child. Even if Senate put a "New Add On" to Adoption Codesof Grandparents Adoptions there would be points of1st degree grandparents,blood related,but then theLaws do have Relative Meaning,but No law that arethere"Mich.has NO provision to relatives but has the meaning of relatives.ODD. Bottom Line Michigan Needs to have Provisions for relatives,Grandparents visits, in Adoption Codes. Change the Adoption Codes for only Grandparents who Adopt a grandchild,would be a provision for the better for children of Michigan. Good Idea. Grandparent adoptions are Not the same as Direct adoption and should be law sited in differently Congress must input,adoption of a grandchild by a grandparent,will input rights to visits. Sounds like Legislators need to replaced or start advancing in good Example of those states that allow grandparents to visits if adopted at least by grandparents. One small step for best interest factor of child Key to create REvise of "grandparent adoptions" is a Yes vote from us too.

Dear "Equal Rights" 767 is discrimination. 767 said, "paternal gp would not be allowed to petition for gptime unless father signs acknowledged paternity" then paternity laws=willNot accept DNAtest for NONfatherhood. Also{should put then "maternal gp wouldNot be allowed to petition for gptime/or adoption unless the Paternal gp have EQUAL RIGHTS to petition for visitation/or adoption too,notice of .EQUAL RIGHTS,EQUAL LOVE WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION Thereby YES,should be a revise LAW under 710.56 Order of adoption. GRANDPARENT ADOPTION LAW. Addon any grandparent adoption,maternal or paternal gp. related by 1st.degree should have EQUAL RIGHTS to petition for gptime petition for best interest of child. after all a child sees gp love either it be maternal side or paternal. YES Vote,on Revise the 710.56 law to get grandparent visits if the child is adopted by 1st.degree grandp.cause it is a "different adoption then a direct adoption.