Passed 62 to 43 in the House on February 15, 2012, to concur with the Senate-passed version of the bill.
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The vote was 62 in favor, 43 against, and 3 not voting.
(House Roll Call 52)
Ban government sending payroll PAC money to union
|Agema (R)||Bolger (R)||Bumstead (R)||Callton (R)||Cotter (R)|
|Crawford (R)||Daley (R)||Damrow (R)||Denby (R)||Farrington (R)|
|Forlini (R)||Foster (R)||Franz (R)||Genetski (R)||Gilbert (R)|
|Glardon (R)||Goike (R)||Haines (R)||Haveman (R)||Heise (R)|
|Hooker (R)||Horn (R)||Hughes (R)||Huuki (R)||Jacobsen (R)|
|Jenkins (R)||Johnson (R)||Knollenberg (R)||Kowall (R)||Kurtz (R)|
|LaFontaine (R)||Lori (R)||Lund (R)||Lyons (R)||MacGregor (R)|
|MacMaster (R)||McBroom (R)||McMillin (R)||Moss (R)||Muxlow (R)|
|Nesbitt (R)||O'Brien (R)||Olson (R)||Opsommer (R)||Ouimet (R)|
|Outman (R)||Pettalia (R)||Poleski (R)||Potvin (R)||Price (R)|
|Pscholka (R)||Rendon (R)||Rogers (R)||Schmidt, W. (R)||Shaughnessy (R)|
|Shirkey (R)||Somerville (R)||Stamas (R)||Tyler (R)||Walsh (R)|
|Yonker (R)||Zorn (R)|
|Ananich (D)||Barnett (D)||Bauer (D)||Bledsoe (D)||Brown (D)|
|Brunner (D)||Byrum (D)||Cavanagh (D)||Clemente (D)||Constan (D)|
|Darany (D)||Dillon (D)||Durhal (D)||Geiss (D)||Hammel (D)|
|Haugh (D)||Hobbs (D)||Hovey-Wright (D)||Howze (D)||Irwin (D)|
|Kandrevas (D)||Lane (D)||LeBlanc (D)||Lindberg (D)||Lipton (D)|
|Liss (D)||McCann (D)||Meadows (D)||Nathan (D)||Oakes (D)|
|Rutledge (D)||Santana (D)||Schmidt, R. (D)||Segal (D)||Slavens (D)|
|Smiley (D)||Stallworth (D)||Stanley (D)||Stapleton (D)||Switalski (D)|
|Talabi (D)||Tlaib (D)||Townsend (D)|
HOUSE LEGISLATORS WHO DID NOT VOTE
|Jackson (D)||Olumba (D)||Womack (D)|
HOUSE LEGISLATORS ALL VOTES
|Y Agema (R)||n Ananich (D)||n Barnett (D)||n Bauer (D)||n Bledsoe (D)|
|Y Bolger (R)||n Brown (D)||n Brunner (D)||Y Bumstead (R)||n Byrum (D)|
|Y Callton (R)||n Cavanagh (D)||n Clemente (D)||n Constan (D)||Y Cotter (R)|
|Y Crawford (R)||Y Daley (R)||Y Damrow (R)||n Darany (D)||Y Denby (R)|
|n Dillon (D)||n Durhal (D)||Y Farrington (R)||Y Forlini (R)||Y Foster (R)|
|Y Franz (R)||n Geiss (D)||Y Genetski (R)||Y Gilbert (R)||Y Glardon (R)|
|Y Goike (R)||Y Haines (R)||n Hammel (D)||n Haugh (D)||Y Haveman (R)|
|Y Heise (R)||n Hobbs (D)||Y Hooker (R)||Y Horn (R)||n Hovey-Wright (D)|
|n Howze (D)||Y Hughes (R)||Y Huuki (R)||n Irwin (D)||- Jackson (D)|
|Y Jacobsen (R)||Y Jenkins (R)||Y Johnson (R)||n Kandrevas (D)||Y Knollenberg (R)|
|Y Kowall (R)||Y Kurtz (R)||Y LaFontaine (R)||n Lane (D)||n LeBlanc (D)|
|n Lindberg (D)||n Lipton (D)||n Liss (D)||Y Lori (R)||Y Lund (R)|
|Y Lyons (R)||Y MacGregor (R)||Y MacMaster (R)||Y McBroom (R)||n McCann (D)|
|Y McMillin (R)||n Meadows (D)||Y Moss (R)||Y Muxlow (R)||n Nathan (D)|
|Y Nesbitt (R)||Y O'Brien (R)||n Oakes (D)||Y Olson (R)||- Olumba (D)|
|Y Opsommer (R)||Y Ouimet (R)||Y Outman (R)||Y Pettalia (R)||Y Poleski (R)|
|Y Potvin (R)||Y Price (R)||Y Pscholka (R)||Y Rendon (R)||Y Rogers (R)|
|n Rutledge (D)||n Santana (D)||n Schmidt, R. (D)||Y Schmidt, W. (R)||n Segal (D)|
|Y Shaughnessy (R)||Y Shirkey (R)||n Slavens (D)||n Smiley (D)||Y Somerville (R)|
|n Stallworth (D)||Y Stamas (R)||n Stanley (D)||n Stapleton (D)||n Switalski (D)|
|n Talabi (D)||n Tlaib (D)||n Townsend (D)||Y Tyler (R)||Y Walsh (R)|
|- Womack (D)||Y Yonker (R)||Y Zorn (R)|
House Roll Call 52 on 2011 House Bill 5085
2) Re: 2011 House Bill 5085 (Ban government sending payroll PAC money to union) by harrynevus on February 8, 2012
Why should state and local governments allow deductions for union PACs? Because this is one of the things payroll departments do in this country. They set up automatic deductons for credit union/bank deposits, loan payments, United Way contributons, wage garnishments, child support, IRS levies, union initiation fees, union dues, PACs, and so on and so on. But these legislators don't care about these deductions. These don't bother them at all.
So, let's call it what it is. This is a republican controlled legislature sending bills to a republican governor and this involves unionized employees that decided to have a deduction of a dollar amount of their choosing, sent to a Political Action Committee. Since members of unions are traditionally Democratic supporters, this republican legislature is saying, "Yep, THIS is where we draw the line. "WE" will not condone or participate in any fundraising for the Democrats."
So, you're right. Maybe we shouldn't have payroll staff enter ANY of these personal- choice deductions for ANY public employee. They can all write checks to the United Fund, drop their deposit off at the bank, send a check to FotC, etc.
But when the legislature selects one specific deduction to prohibit, it's discriminatory. Automatic payroll deductions aren't illegal, and contributions to PACS aren't illegal, but payroll deductions of union PAC contributions are (or soon will be) illegal. It's also discriminatory because it only addresses employees contributing to UNION political action committees. It says nothing of employees that want to have money deducted for a republican based PAC. No, this only addresses UNION PACs.
It's not only discriminatory, but it's a clear example of elected officials using their power and position to benefit themselves with no thought or concern for the citizens' needs or desires. I'd love to see what the AG says about this piece-of-crap legislation, or better yet, watch the Supreme Court try to squirm around it.
3) Re: 2011 House Bill 5085 (Ban government sending payroll PAC money to union) by chrisv on November 2, 2011
I agree that we should Ban government sending payroll PAC money to unions as the unions should never be part of the political process in the first place.
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