Motion in the Senate on May 12, 2011, to give the bill immediate effect. The motion failed 25 to 11 in the Senate on May 12, 2011, to give the bill immediate effect (a two-thirds majority is needed).
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The vote was 25 in favor, 11 against, and 2 not voting.
(Senate Roll Call 171)
|Booher (R)||Casperson (R)||Caswell (R)||Colbeck (R)||Emmons (R)|
|Green (R)||Hansen (R)||Hildenbrand (R)||Hune (R)||Jansen (R)|
|Jones (R)||Kahn (R)||Kowall (R)||Marleau (R)||Meekhof (R)|
|Moolenaar (R)||Nofs (R)||Pappageorge (R)||Pavlov (R)||Proos (R)|
|Richardville (R)||Robertson (R)||Rocca (R)||Schuitmaker (R)||Walker (R)|
|Anderson (D)||Bieda (D)||Gleason (D)||Gregory (D)||Hood (D)|
|Hopgood (D)||Hunter (D)||Johnson (D)||Smith (D)||Warren (D)|
SENATE LEGISLATORS WHO DID NOT VOTE
|Brandenburg (R)||Whitmer (D)|
SENATE LEGISLATORS ALL VOTES
|n Anderson (D)||n Bieda (D)||Y Booher (R)||- Brandenburg (R)||Y Casperson (R)|
|Y Caswell (R)||Y Colbeck (R)||Y Emmons (R)||n Gleason (D)||Y Green (R)|
|n Gregory (D)||Y Hansen (R)||Y Hildenbrand (R)||n Hood (D)||n Hopgood (D)|
|Y Hune (R)||n Hunter (D)||Y Jansen (R)||n Johnson (D)||Y Jones (R)|
|Y Kahn (R)||Y Kowall (R)||Y Marleau (R)||Y Meekhof (R)||Y Moolenaar (R)|
|Y Nofs (R)||Y Pappageorge (R)||Y Pavlov (R)||Y Proos (R)||Y Richardville (R)|
|Y Robertson (R)||Y Rocca (R)||Y Schuitmaker (R)||n Smith (D)||Y Walker (R)|
|n Warren (D)||- Whitmer (D)||n Young (D)|
Senate Roll Call 171 on The motion
Now that there is no single business tax, no michigan business tax, and now grocery stores do not have to mark their items; will we see grocery prices go down? I will be watching. Will businesses like II Stanley and Denso start hiring off the street instead of using temp agencies? Will we see wages go up? I do not see how taxes solve our problems. We need to make things in Michigan again. I've lost two jobs due to outsourcing. One was outsourced to Mexico and now this one to privatization. I'm not getting any younger and at my age do not wish to go into 20K debt to get another degree. I will be watching and I always turn out to VOTE!
In case you haven't noticed Minnie, Michigan has thrived under both Democratic, (yes, that is the name of their party) and Republican parties because of the auto industry, and their union, which provided jobs and a tax base, driving the economy. When that collapsed, our economy collapsed with it. Neither the Democrats, (that's members of the Democratic party) nor unions, nor Republicans for that matter, are to blame for that, at least not in Michigan.
Michigan must cut spending where it can, but not to the point of making Michigan unattractive to future development. In order to do that, taxes will need to increase. I disagree that taxes on business or corporations is a tax on everyone. I believe the market is driven more by demand than supply. If a business or corporation has a product that is in demand, he will find the price that will give him the most volume in sales, what the market will bear. To tax from the bottom up is the real job killer. Taxing from the top down is much more effective and market friendly. Jobs are created by businesses making more of the product they sell, not by them being able to pay less in taxes.