Motion by Sen. Tupac Hunter (D) on March 23, 2011, that the question be divided and that a separate vote be taken amendment No. 2. The motion failed 12 to 25 in the Senate on March 23, 2011.
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The vote was 12 in favor, 25 against, and 1 not voting.
(Senate Roll Call 80)
|Anderson (D)||Bieda (D)||Gleason (D)||Gregory (D)||Hood (D)|
|Hopgood (D)||Hunter (D)||Johnson (D)||Smith (D)||Warren (D)|
|Whitmer (D)||Young (D)|
|Booher (R)||Brandenburg (R)||Casperson (R)||Caswell (R)||Colbeck (R)|
|Emmons (R)||Green (R)||Hildenbrand (R)||Hune (R)||Jansen (R)|
|Jones (R)||Kahn (R)||Kowall (R)||Marleau (R)||Meekhof (R)|
|Moolenaar (R)||Nofs (R)||Pappageorge (R)||Pavlov (R)||Proos (R)|
|Richardville (R)||Robertson (R)||Rocca (R)||Schuitmaker (R)||Walker (R)|
SENATE LEGISLATORS WHO DID NOT VOTE
SENATE LEGISLATORS ALL VOTES
|Y Anderson (D)||Y Bieda (D)||n Booher (R)||n Brandenburg (R)||n Casperson (R)|
|n Caswell (R)||n Colbeck (R)||n Emmons (R)||Y Gleason (D)||n Green (R)|
|Y Gregory (D)||- Hansen (R)||n Hildenbrand (R)||Y Hood (D)||Y Hopgood (D)|
|n Hune (R)||Y Hunter (D)||n Jansen (R)||Y Johnson (D)||n Jones (R)|
|n Kahn (R)||n Kowall (R)||n Marleau (R)||n Meekhof (R)||n Moolenaar (R)|
|n Nofs (R)||n Pappageorge (R)||n Pavlov (R)||n Proos (R)||n Richardville (R)|
|n Robertson (R)||n Rocca (R)||n Schuitmaker (R)||Y Smith (D)||n Walker (R)|
|Y Warren (D)||Y Whitmer (D)||Y Young (D)|
Senate Roll Call 80 on The motion
You SOB are reallity something. If you wanted to save the state money (All you have to do is go to part time Legislator) and the state would save Million of $$$$$$$$$$$$$
2) Re: 2011 House Bill 4408 (Increase unemployment benefit fraud damage penalties ) by Admin003 on March 23, 2011
Senator Pappageorge's statement is as follows:
I would remind the previous speaker, maybe folks don't understand how this money works. Each individual
business owner has an account with the feds and the state, and that business owner pays that money to the feds and
to the state. We all understand that now? So when you suck money out of every one of the businesses in your
district, don't ask them to be able to hire or keep more people. They can't do it if we keep sucking the money out of
that business. Hello? Hello? This is not business versus workers. The only people who pay taxes are individuals. But
we go out of our way--and have for years--to figure out how to have business collect the money for us. That's what
is going on.
Every one of your businesses--let me say it again--every one of the businesses in your district are paying this bill.
They need relief. The idea of some magic, federal money comes into the system, and therefore, allows people to buy
things and businesses prosper is really misguided.
This bill extends benefits for 20 weeks. At the same time, it gives relief. Let me say that again: It gives relief to
every business in your district, and if you're telling me the businesses in your district don't need that relief, I would
say check again with your businesses.
3) Re: 2011 House Bill 4408 (Increase unemployment benefit fraud damage penalties ) by Admin003 on March 23, 2011
Senator Caswell's statement is as follows:
Small businesses are job creators, and over 80 percent of our jobs come from them. I ran into an individual who
owns a factory in my district when I was campaigning. He spent over half of his personal fortune to keep his factory
open and going. His comment to me was, "Bruce, these people I have working out here are my friends and
neighbors, and I am going to do everything I can to make sure they continue to have a job." I have compassion for
that kind of individual who is living the American Dream and doing everything he can in order to keep his people
I ran into numerous, numerous small business owners who had spent their entire 401(k)s that was their retirement
in order to keep their business open through the dark days to keep their friends and neighbors employed. They have
nothing left for retirement. I have compassion for those people who have worked hard every day of their life and
sacrificed everything when times got tough to keep their friends and neighbors employed.
I ran into a flower shop in one of my cities. I walked in and it was 60 degrees in that flower shop. They did not
have money for heat. They were $3,000 behind in their rent, and the individual who owned the building said, "I will
let you stay there as long as you keep people employed." And she did. I have compassion for those people who have
done everything in their power to keep their businesses going and to keep people employed. The stories go on and
on and on. Small businesses--the job creators--are our friends and neighbors. They employee our friends and
neighbors. We have to understand that when they live the American Dream, we all live the American Dream. Hard
work should be rewarded, and success should be rewarded. Each of us should praise those who create jobs and make
the kind of sacrifices that I just mentioned to keep their friends and neighbors employed. I salute them.
Yes, there are a lot of things wrong with unemployment. I will tell you of one. One is that if you are a private
business owner of a certain kind of business and you shut it down, even though you are required to pay
unemployment on yourself--full unemployment--you get seven weeks of unemployment and that is it. Oh, you can
also get a five-week extension, but you are expected to pay fully into the unemployment insurance fund. I have
compassion for those people who have paid the full bill and can benefit very little from the unemployment insurance
God bless our small business owners, and may we make Michigan a state that you are proud to be in; that we
welcome success, and we champion those who employ our friends and neighbors.
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