2010 Senate Bill 1173 (Ban “stealth" unionization of Medicaid personal care service employees )

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Introduced by Sen. Nancy Cassis (R) on February 24, 2010, to establish that a person whose private employment compensation comes from a direct or indirect government subsidy is not considered a government employee, and so is not subject be being inducted into a government employee union, as happened to the home day care providers who are the subject of a Mackinac Center lawsuit, or the Medicaid-recipient home personal care services providers subject to a similar scheme for which Senate Bill 731 would give statutory authorization.
- Referred to the Senate Families and Human Services Committee on February 24, 2010.
  - Reported in the Senate on April 22, 2010, with the recommendation that the substitute (S-1) be adopted and that the bill then pass.

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1) Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1173 (Ban “stealth" unionization of Medicaid personal care service employees ) [by BarbaraBrown on June 25, 2010]

Thank you, MP, I am also most interested in the hard numbers here.

I'm not sure where I referred to "huge wage increases" for caregivers. I may have referred to bloated salaries and huge wage increases for incompetent dead weight union staffers, but that's another topic.

and I certainly do feel caregivers deserve respect that's why they deserve and honest, fair, election with impartial oversight. And I certainly don't believe ANY caregivers are stooges or thugs -- I believe union salesmen duped some of them into signing cards and if this bill passes there will be no recourse for them to get out of this supposed "union".

As for hating unions well, in my experience, any time you ask tough questions about unions you are accused of "hating unions" or being backwards or prejudiced or anti-worker. If this "stealth union" is above board, if the election was honest, if the numbers all add up, if the providers are really benefiting in concrete measurable terms, if the dues are truly ALL going to serve these providers than please, explain, we are all ears!

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2) Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1173 (Ban “stealth" unionization of Medicaid personal care service employees ) [by My Pursuit on June 25, 2010]

You offer no valid argument, is there is no good honest way to argue your point? Your reference to Bernie Madoff etc etc sounds like someone who has nothing constructive to offer for rebuttal. I actually picture a small child kicking around on the floor screaming because someone doesn't agree with them...

I would be more interested in actual responses to the questions about the total number of votes compared to the total number of people affected by this.

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3) Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1173 (Ban “stealth" unionization of Medicaid personal care service employees ) [by stevefromsacto on June 24, 2010]

"This is the most crooked stunt ever pulled..."

Yeah, right, Barbara. It's worse than Bernie Madoff, it's worse than payoffs to Blackwater and other defense contractors, it's worse than what BP did to cut corners. Sure.

"Huge" wage increases? What planet do you live on? Many of these caregivers have given up high paying jobs and even careers to care for loved ones. And because they have the audacity to want respect, to want to earn a living wage and benefits, suddenly they become stooges or thugs.

You hate unions. We get it. If it were up to you, we'd be back in the 19th century.

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