2010 Senate Bill 1077: Facilitate for-credit fire-fighting high school courses

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Introduced by Sen. Roger Kahn (R) on January 21, 2010, to allow and encourage local fire departments to establish fire fighter courses and exams for Boy Scouts.
- Referred to the Senate Education Committee on January 21, 2010.
  - Reported in the Senate on June 29, 2010, with the recommendation that the substitute (S-1) be adopted and that the bill then pass.
- Substitute offered in the Senate on July 2, 2010, to replace the previous version of the bill with one that facilitates for-credit fire-fighting high school courses, including waiving the "certified" teacher mandate that restricts who can teach in Michigan schools. The substitute passed by voice vote in the Senate on July 2, 2010.
Passed 33 to 0 in the Senate on July 21, 2010, to add various provisions to current law that facilitate fire departments providing for-credit courses in high schools leading to a student becoming qualified to become a volunteer fire fighter. Among other things the bill would waive the "certified" teacher mandate that restricts who can teach in Michigan schools.
Who Voted "Yes" and Who Voted "No"
Received in the House on July 21, 2010.
- Referred to the House Education Committee on July 21, 2010.

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1) Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1077 (Authorize government fireman training for children ) by melvins523 on November 20, 2010

WOW, what else are we going to throw on the schools. Where is the money coming from? How many of the senators want to teach in high school after they are thrown out of office(non-certified teachers)? The way civics is taught today in schools is appalling. I guess those are the kids that become state senators. I always thought that each community that has a volunteer fire dept. would do their own advertising,recruiting and teaching. Why do we attach multiple items to a bill in order to get it to be approved.

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2) Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1077 (Authorize government fireman training for children ) by dsand102 on November 9, 2010

This is for the individual(s), and you know who you are, (Timberwolf55) which is not informed........

It's a very good idea, I'm a career Firefighter, and I've been doing this for over 20+ years. Our department use to have an Explorer program for this purpose. We didn't get paid any money, it was strictly volunteering your time. These kids arranged from 15 - 19 years old. This gave them an edge in learning our (my) trade. If they go to a college which offers some Fire Science Courses, they get to take the Firefighter 1 & 2 Certification, which in some cases some departments are looking for those individuals, because of the cost factor of running a Fire Academy.

On our Department if you have FF 1 & 2, you are in a classroom for about two weeks, yes you get to go to fires, but not during a working fire. After the fire is our, they get to go in and do some overhauling, wetting down the room(s), pulling ceiling(s), cutting holes in floors. Basically the same thing we (I) do, except the fire is out. Now after the two weeks, then they are put on the floor, on a 24 hour shift.

I think the best way you can find out about these things, come and work in our environment.

Some people, OK a lot of people don't know what we do on the JOB.

To name a few (we do more then sit down in "Lay z boys")

Have have HAZ-MAt training over 200 hrs. I'm sorry Hazardous Materials

Have training for "Weapons of Mass Destruction"

Water rescue training (Summer and Winter)

Confine Space training

Smoke reading Classes

Drivers Training

The list goes on and on.

So you see, they (kids) will get a lot of training, and this hopefully will keep them safe.

See you should be glad to have someone watching your back while you are sleep. Just think if we weren't there, you wouldn't be either.

So, give some respect, to our Career. We clean up other peoples mistakes. and it sounds like you made a lot of messes in your life.

So, Step Off, and you know what that means.

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3) Re: 2010 Senate Bill 1077 (Authorize government fireman training for children ) by lbweb on November 5, 2010

Seriously?! Do you honestly think they would send untrained "kids" out on their own? And your Army question doens't even deserve a response it is so outrageous a scenario. This is a good first step in introducing firefighting to our youth. Good grief, timberwolf55. Get a grip.

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