Gypsy, give up. You are correct in yopur assessment but you will never get the paranoid ones to admit this is not an attempt to take their guns away. BTW-I own rifles, pistols shotguns, support the NRA and MCRGO etc and hold a CPL.
2) Re: 2009 House Bill 4501 (Revise “pistol” definition ) by FreeSpeaker on May 19, 2009
[quote user="Mike Hignite"]
Let's address the fact that all of these laws, gun boards, CCW, regulations, and registrations are unconstituitonal. Michigan's constitution guarrantees the right of ALL citizens to be armed. Period. ...
If, in fact, these various laws violate the Michigan Constitution, as claimed, it is difficult (even impossible) to conceive that in the years they have been on the books they would not have been challenged in court and thrown out by court decision.
Arguments on many fronts can be made for liberalizing these laws. Constitutional principles certainly are a legitimate part of those arguments. But making specious claims about supposed violations of Michigan's Constitution does not serve the cause well at all.
3) Re: 2009 House Bill 4501 (Revise “pistol” definition ) by Mike Hignite on May 18, 2009
Let's address the fact that all of these laws, gun boards, CCW, regulations, and registrations are unconstituitonal. Michigan's constitution guarrantees the right of ALL citizens to be armed. Period. If, in the past, citizens let those in government attempt to steal their rights away, that is a shame. It doesn't mean that those rights don't still exist. Here are two ways to recover these rights:
1. Contact your legislator. Repeatedly. Until they eliminate these unconstitutional statutes. If they refuse, support someone else who will do your will. Never vote for them again, and encourage everyone you know to never vote for them again.
2. Read and understand your rights as a juror. If you are ever on a case where someone is charged with any kind of weapons law violation, vote innocent. If they robbed a bank with a machine gun, and killed ten people, convict them of bank robbery and murder, but do not convict anyone of using a gun in a crime, or being in the possession of a gun, or an unregistered gun, or illegal ammunition, or anything like that. This is called jury nullification and it was used most reasonably to help end slavery and prohibition.
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