Introduced by Sen. Gretchen Whitmer (D) on June 14, 2007, to define as “coercion” for purposes of establishing criminal sexual conduct (rape) a perpetrator intentionally leading a victim to believe that he or she is someone other than himself or herself.
Referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee on June 14, 2007.
1) permission is permission by Anonymous Citizen on June 19, 2007 if you and the girl have consentual sex,that is,you both agree to have sex, and each has the other's permission to have sex, then the sex CANNOT BE CONSIDERED RAPE.
the girl CANNOT TAKE BACK PERMISSION AFTER THE FACT.
that would be like having permission to borrow the family car, you and your parents both agree that you can borrow the car, you both agree to the conditions under which it can be borrowed, such as a time it has to be back, and you live up to those conditions by getting the car back on time and in good shape, with not tickets.
your parents cannot turn around and say you stole the car. it just wasn't so.
now, if dad said bring the car back at ten because you don't have his permission to drive after ten, then driving after ten would be considered driving without permission, and driving without permission is theft.
2) This is real border line by Anonymous Citizen on June 19, 2007 I meet a girl tell her I'm a high payed doctor when really I rented the car and work as a door greeter at wal-mart but in the course of events we have sex that shouldn't be considered rape it's part of the one night stand game scam em slam em and bail it's not etchical but shouldn't constitute rape.The thing is if the woman wasn't a snobby gold digger I wouldn't have to lie to begin with both perticipants have their moral compass out of whack but again a slap in the face and her never speaking to you again should be the consequences of this action not 10 years in prison.I also agree if a fifteen year old says she's eightteen and has some fake I.D. or something no crimnal charges should be pressed ever this happens to lots of people and it is bogus crap that the guy ends up in trouble. Reply
3) so does that mean by Anonymous Citizen on June 18, 2007 that when a young lady IMPERSONATES AN ADULT by stating she is of legal age to have consentual sex, that she is guilty of committing rape? or MORE IMPORTANTLY, that the sex MUST BE ASSUMED CONSENTUAL BECAUSE SHE ILLEGALLY IMPERSONATED SOMEONE WHO IS ABLE TO GIVE LEGAL CONSENT?
rape is about permission.
that is what separates consentual sex from rape.
it's the same act, but one HAS permission and the other one DOESN'T.
permission can have qualifications, and it can be withdrawn anytime, but it can never be revoked AFTER THE FACT.
it's not okay to say, 'yes, let's have sex.' then wake up the next morning and say 'hey, i was raped.'.
it's like giving the police permission to search your car, then revoking that permission when contraband is found.